@nigel #xmpp rules. inve been using that exclusively since years and raised the notification issue as soon as matrix came out.

#conversations #dino works well.
On macos it seems #beagle is better than #monal for me but have not tested much.

@Bnerde

Ich nutze mehrere Accounts, u.a. vom Projekt und vom Arbeitgeber 😉

#Conversations (also der Server zur gleichnamigen App) ist gut, egal welchen Client Du nutzt. Ansonsten einfach mal hier gucken:

https://joinjabber.org/docs/servers/ von @joinjabber

und

https://providers.xmpp.net/#providers von @xmpp_providers

Unpopular opinion: There is not the One #Messenger To Rule Them All. It depends on individual #chat requirements.

Extremely easy to onboard and use, but only for Android and iOS: #Quicksy or #Prav.

For Joan & John Average: #Conversations, #Dino, or #Monal.

For team chat: #Gajim or #Prose.

For people with higher security necessities: #Conversations or #Dino with self-hosted server and/or use over #TOR and/or multiple (burner) accounts.

Tbc. Of course, there are many other valid options.

@lxo @daniel @daltux @isadora @helenfernanda @snikket_im @ejabberd @prosodyim

AFAIK, #Conversations offers domain hosting on their #ejabberd. I.e. they could (in theory) grab all your metadata, sell it, and send you daily reminders to buy #MobileCoin from them. However, as you own your domain, you could export your data ("XEP-0227: Portable Import/Export Format for XMPP-IM Servers") and move elsewhere. Also, Conversations is hosted in the #EU, i.e. #GDPR applies until #FriedrichMerz kills it.

@daltux @lxo @isadora @helenfernanda

Sorry for changing language, but my pt_BR does not exist 😞

There are various providers to host your own #XMPP domain or your own complete #Jabber server.

E.g. #conversations (same people as the Android client, i.e. @daniel) or #Snikkett by @snikket_im and many more.

The former is based on #Ejabberd by @ejabberd, the latter on #Prosody by @prosodyim.

Message Displayed Synchronization should work with #conversations (Android) and #monal (iOS) and of course with Gajim.

I recently developed a thing to turn a Conversations chat* into a PDF.

https://codeberg.org/moji/typst-conversations

That story began with a friend of mine that had got a XMPP group chat where they shared updates and pictures of their latest travel adventure. Now chat is rather ephemeral and they wanted to preserve those memories in an easy accessible format that is PDF. And so I put something together.

* actually any chat as long as you can get the raw data in the expected format

#typst #conversations #chat #pdf #xmpp

@kkarhan @ueeu @monocles It's true that #Conversations and its fork #MonoclesChat are reproducible today, yet they are not setup like this historically (signed by F-Droid). While we push for reproducible builds, these are not a must, but an extra check of trust.

https://f-droid.org/docs/Inclusion_How-To/#reproducible-builds

Signal is much much better then any other centalized chat provider out there, well there is threema too, which is comparable and not located in a country that has a fashist coup currently.
The main critic on centralized services like signal is, that is is in fact one central entity and you have to trust them and all data of every user goes through that single vendor. Signal does some things to minimize the data they know about you, but in the end they still have data of all connections of every user and it wouldn't be hard to deanonymize users and also who talks to who, if the server were compromised. (still better then whatsapp, since they use the data for marketing now and not hypothetically)

With xmpp you don't have to trust a single entity. You still have to trust your server operator, but you can choose them yourself (or be them yourself). You also can choose your client (the program you use to interact)
That's about it.

If you want a foot in the door of a federated service like xmpp without the initial friction, you can use quicksy, it is in the apple store too and it is nearly monal, but you register with your phone number and people can find you like the do with whatsapp and signal. But you register again on only one server.
But normal monal users or users with other clients (on android the client could be "conversations" for example) can still talk to you from any server.

If you use monal they need to know your xmpp ID ( name@servername.org ), same as an email address.

You could find some curated list of recommended servers at https://joinjabber.org/docs/servers/
Selfhosting is an option too, or managed selfhosting, they have some links for that too.
If you are already registered you can find some public rooms at https://search.jabber.network

#xmpp #jabber #federation #messenger #conversations #monal #quicksy #snikket

I've seen people promoting Feburary, 1st 2025 as a #globalswitchday to leave questionable services.

If you are thinking of switching your instant messaging app: Please consider switching to #XMPP to enhance your digital sovereignty.

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A picture with a text on the left side: "Imaging that you can switch your instant messaging app whenever you want to and you can still communicate with each of your contacts in encrypted chats and groupchats. XMPP - The Open Messaging Standard". On the right side there are logos of the XMPP apps Quicksy, Monal, Conversations, Snikket, monocles chat, Gajim, Dino and a text saying "... and many more". The apps are connected via an XMPP logo which shows that all those apps can communication with each other because they are using the same standard. There is an additional text on the right side saying "The apps are ready. Are you ready too?".

@rooneymcnibnug

Android: #Conversations #Cheogram
iOS: @Monal
Desktop: @dino @gajim @profanity
Web: @movim #libervia

You can find a pretty complete list over here, and you can even sort the clients by platform:

https://xmpp.org/software/?platform=all-platforms

@Jeff setting up a @snikket_im Server (https://snikket.im) should be very easy.

Using apps like #Monal for iOS/macos or the snikket app / #Conversations for android or @gajim for windows/Linux should give you a very good user experience :)

@icaria36 why not use #xmpp and #Monal for iOS + #conversations by @daniel on Android?

As very easy to install server there is #snikket @snikket_im see https://snikket.im

@cwebber I use #Bibuomi ( #IRC to #XMPP gateway ) to access whatever IRC channel ( or network for that matter ) I need to ..

So .. basically, hum .. no, I don't get that much chair time because I do IRC from my phone using #Conversations

Pretty cool actually 😎

@wanisbunes @mailbox_org
Eine sehr gute Frage, insbesondere wenn man auf den #Conversations Compliance Check schaut:
https://compliance.conversations.im/server/mailbox.org/

Wäre schon super, wenn mailbox.org das auf Stand halten würde. Es ist einer der Anbieter mit Mailadresse=Chatadresse.

The "search by language" feature is also available via our API. Apps such as #Conversations and #Gajim already support it automatically.

@genodeftest @stefan falsch, #Conversations auf Android ist super gepflegt, wir pflegen #Monal für IOS/MacOS sehr aktiv und #Gajim für Windows und Linux wird auch sehr aktiv gepflegt.

Ich persönlich nutze #xmpp seit vielen Jahren mit all meinen Freunden und es funktioniert einwandfrei.

I just saw that #Conversations and #monocleschat seem to be currently available for free in the Google Play Store.
Thanks @daniel and @monocles for this great offer.

This might be a good chance to onboard Google Play users to #XMPP.

But do not forget: You can also use #fdroid or #Codeberg to get those apps.
@xmpp@fedigroups.social
@xmpp@a.gup.pe