Hey @movim got a quick question : how does a Movim user degrade when connecting through regular #XMPP apps that are not aware of its features ?

I tried creating a test account on movim.eu, logged in via web, created some channels/servers and wrote some messages.

I then tried using Conversations. I can see the channel that is not part of a server (hidden under "group chats", for some reason Conversations does not show it by default before it sends at least one message) but not the server nor the channel that is part of it.

Recordatorio de sala o grupo XMPP orientado a integrantes de la instancia mastodon.uy

xmpp:mastodon.uy@salas.buzon.uy?join

#xmpp #mastodonuy

@Natasha_Jay

I never used ICQ or Facebook, but I still call #XMPP by its expropriated name, #Jabber.

https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9

@j @pianopianolontano @hanez

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This #myth about #XML "verbosity" is as hard to fight as #antivax, I guess 🤷

https://xmpp.org/about/myths/ by @xmpp

In general, the comparison does sound like collected statements from the net, but not being based on own experience and experiments.

Which is OK. There is always room for meta analysis. In any case, it would be better to have references for all the statements made.

#Jabber #XMPP

@j @pianopianolontano

Johannes writes:

"#XML-Based Messaging: #XMPP uses XML …, making it … verbose compared to other modern protocols."

And:

"Designed for large-scale federation, but XML verbosity can increase resource usage in high-traffic scenarios."

Real world scenarios show, that this "verbosity" does not have relevant impact, incl. in high-traffic applications, b/c other overhead, such as TLS.

I wonder, if @hanez did any measurements, or which evidence they have?

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Comparación técnica entre #irc, #matrix y #xmpp de Johannes Findeisen

Enlace: https://hanez.org/document/irc-vs-matrix-vs-xmpp

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Artículo del sitio web hanez.org donde se comparan los protocolos IRC, Matrix y XMPP

We will have a combined #XMPP and #UnifiedPush stand at #CLT2026 on March 28th and 29th. Come talk to us if you are curious about either! We will have merch for both, test devices, lots of advice, and I've even heard rumors about free Haribo.

XMPP Standards Foundation: https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2026/en/programm/beitrag/204

UnifiedPush: https://chemnitzer.linux-tage.de/2026/en/programm/beitrag/411

@minkiu @Goffi @movim

The whole idea of #XMPP is it's flexibility to work for every possible use case. E.g. in my company we use it for IoT.

For the specific use case of private messaging, there is #Snikket by @snikket, a preconfigured, dockerized #Prosody by @prosodyim.

I'm not aware of a preconfigured (Docker or other) image of e.g. #Movim + XMPP server. Maybe it should exist!

@minkiu

It's on the roadmaps of #Movim by @movim and #Libervia by @Goffi, but not implemented yet in any #Jabber/#XMPP client I'm aware of.

I've been looking at self-hosting something to replace Discord with my friends, and before going with the obvious alternatives, I wanted to take a stab a #XMPP (with Prosody) and I am not really succeeding, but before banging my head with it a bit more, does MUC allow "voice channels" (so a multi person call where you don’t really call, its a lobby and people join)? Or is this a feature that does not exist yet?

A new position for a Technical Product Manager has been added to the XMPP Job Board! Find the full job listing at: https://xmpp.work/job/technical-product-manager/ #XMPP #getFediHired #fedihire #jobs

RE: https://mastodon.social/@fediversereport/116178002926045553

That's exactly why having a standard that covers all the interactions, clients and servers is primordial.

https://connectedplaces.online/reports/fr156-share-where/

Movim "API" is XMPP, Mastodon API is Mastodon API, developped by Mastodon and for Mastodon. Only the servers to servers interactions are standardized and specified in ActivityPub.

#xmpp #activitypub

XMPP Extensions and Specifications (XEP)

Read about the new #XMPP #Extensions and #Specifications changes and updates in February 2026:

https://xmpp.org/2026/03/the-xmpp-newsletter-february-2026/#extensions-and-specifications

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #xep #standards #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging #newsletter

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The XMPP Newsletter for February 2026 is out!

Read about the latest updates in the #XMPP universe and our #standards!

https://xmpp.org/2026/03/the-xmpp-newsletter-february-2026/

Enjoy reading! ☕

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging #newsletter #xep

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@poVoq

Also about fighting MUC #spam etc. but orthogonal to #BanBot:

https://salsa.debian.org/debacle/crowdmod

#Jabber #XMPP #CrowdMod #moderation

So the Spaces are now merged in Movim main branch! 🎉 The official instance https://mov.im/ has been updated 😸!

Do you want to know how it was done? And how it is actually implemented in Movim? I wrote a very detailed blog post about it there: https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/fb46d699-adc1-4fda-a76e-71ca1d246b80 👀

The upcoming days will now be spent on stabilizing and fixing all the bugs we can find 🐛

And as always, if you want to support me in this amazing journey https://movim.eu/#fund ✨ And don't forget to spread around the good news 📢!

#xmpp #discord #xmpp #spaces

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A Space in Movim

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Damn! #XMPP in 2026 is pretty sleek! Last time I actively used it, was probably 15 years ago. Pretty impressed so far.

Et hop, version XMPP Web 0.12.0 sortie avec de nombreux petites améliorations orientées utilisateurs et un nouveau contributeur qui semble motivé pour les appels audio / video 🎉 #dev #xmpp
https://github.com/nioc/xmpp-web/releases/tag/0.12.0

The good thing about Movim is that you can also fully self-host it.

There is no place like 127.0.0.1 ✨

#movim #selfHosting #discord #meme #xmpp

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Meme

I'm adding the last missing features to the Spaces.

Please, don't expect Movim to have all the Discord features in the end 🫣I don't have the time for it and I would prefer to keep things as simple as possible 😸

Anyway you'll be able to pin important Spaces in the sidebar 📍 and select how you want to be notified from it (never, when mentioned or always) 🔔

I'll do a bit of refactoring and stabilization and propose it in the main branch after that. Soon 👀

#movim #space #xmpp #discord

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A new position for a CDC – SW Integration and SW Qualification Engineer with White box testing of infotainment (Android/Linux) has been added to the XMPP Job Board! Find the full job listing at: https://xmpp.work/job/cdc-sw-integration-and-sw-qualification-engineer-with-white-box-testing-of-infotainment-android-linux/ #XMPP #getFediHired #fedihire #jobs

@birgir

Note, that #Jabber/#XMPP can work as a Discord replacement, too — with the right client. Which is #Movim by @movim:

https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/help-movim-reach-its-goals-for-2026-LQext9

I’ve officially started a new hobby group in Iceland focused on PMR 446 radios. Even though I recently got my Ham license, I have an extreme soft spot for these little "license-free" devices. There’s something uniquely fun about seeing how much distance you can squeeze out of 0.5 watts of power.

I’m taking a page out of the UK radio scene’s book and starting a "Sunday Net" (Sundays at 1:00 PM). The goal? Get to high ground, turn to Channel 1, and see who we can reach.

The "Digital Dilemma":
To actually find people, I’ve had to set the main base on Facebook (since that's where the crowds are), but as a fan of open tech, I’m using this as an excuse to bridge the gap:

💬 XMPP: I’ve set up a chat group to promote decentralized messaging.

🛡️ Matrix: I’m testing a room there to see if it can finally replace Discord for me.

If you’re in Iceland and have a dusty walkie-talkie in a drawer—or if you just love independent comms—come join the experiment!

xmpp:pmr-446-iceland@conference.conversations.im?join
facebook.com/groups/1256247679…

#ham #pmr446 #ísland #iceland #xmpp

@strypey @ben @delta @deutrino

Please forget about #Thunderbird for #Jabber/#XMPP at this moment. It does work, a colleague of mine does use it on their PC.

But it does not support any modern XMPP features of the last decade. No images, e2ee, message archive, stream management (crucial on mobile!), reactions, A/V calls.

If you are on Android, there is only #Conversations_im by @daniel for Jabber now (and its various forks).

For #Mobian, there is #Dino by @dino, for iOS #Monal by @Monal.

@ben
> I rather like using Thunderbird on Android. It supports Autocrypt too!

I didn't know either of these things. Thanks for the tip!

I've installed Thunderbird via F-Droid so I can try this out. I'm told it supports XMPP and Matrix too, which might allow me to get rid of a bunch of the apps I'm currently juggling on my ancient and increasingly decrepit Android.

#Thunderbird #AutoCrypt #XMPP #Matrix

@delta @deutrino

Adding new features while maintaining a simple, compact and coherent UI is always difficult.

With the newly introduced Spaces a few things were reworked to ensure a fluid navigation, especially on mobile.

I hope that you'll like the result 🫣

#movim #xmpp #discord

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@gajim @monocles
@profanity

https://fosstodon.org/@xmpp/116155648862392872
xmpp@fosstodon.org - #XMPP Community

Four recipes to use an open #chat #protocol at the ‘Digital Independence Day’ ( #di_day )!

From the XMPP community to enable people to start with independent #messaging.

https://di-day.xmpp.link/

#conversations #dino #monal #snikket #interoperability #whatsapp #signal #didit #did

#XMPP Community

Vier Rezepte zur Nutzung eines offenen #Chat-Protokoll beim ‘Digital Independence Day’ ( #di_day )!

Erstellt von der XMPP Community um Menschen unabhängiges #Messaging zu ermöglichen.

https://di-day.xmpp.link

#conversations #dino #monal #snikket #whatsapp #signal #didit #did

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Vier Schalen mit dem XMPP Logo und den Chatapp Logo darüber. Conversations, Dino, Monal and Snikket.

So tonight I merged the multi-sessions per process branch. This is the result of 3 months of intensive work and a complete refactoring of most Movim code to isolate the users sessions in memory.

But the result is there, Movim is now scaling way way better memory wise.

Attached a screenshot of https://mov.im/ memory graph before and after the change ✨

And now, back to Spaces 👀

#xmpp #movim #discord

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#XMPP Community

Four recipes to use an open #chat #protocol at the ‘Digital Independence Day’ ( #di_day )!

From the XMPP community to enable people to start with independent #messaging.

https://di-day.xmpp.link/

#conversations #dino #monal #snikket #interoperability #whatsapp #signal #didit #did

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Four bowles with the XMPP logo with XMPP Chat client logos above. Conversations, Dino, Monal and Snikket.

@zeroday
Moin, dann mal viel Erfolg beim Ausprobieren. In meinem Bekanntenkreis hat sich der Standard #XMPP durchgesetzt (Technikanfänger/-innen kann man da gut mit#Quicksy abholen bzw. auf https://imday.de/ verweisen).

Einen Systemvergleich findet man hier: https://www.freie-messenger.de/systemvergleich/xmpp-matrix/

Trotzdem viel Erfolg.

@KITInformatik @entropia @MuT_KIT
"Um euch mehr digitale Unabhängigkeit zu ermöglichen, bekommt ihr hier Hilfe dabei, von einem Messenger, der zentral beim siebtgrößten Unternehmen der Welt gehostet ist, zu einem anderen zu wechseln, der zentral beim fünftgrößten Unternehmen der Welt gehostet ist - beide natürlich aus den USA und im Ernstfall aufgrund des Defense Production Act unter direkter Kontrolle der US-Regierung."

#WhatsApp #Signal #Matrix #XMPP #DID #diday #dut #dutgemacht

@allo

Try #Movim by @movim!

https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/help-movim-reach-its-goals-for-2026-LQext9

#Jabber #XMPP

I wonder how hard it could be to build a #Discord clone using #XMPP.

It already has most of the features, and it would only require combining them in another UI than typical XMPP clients have.

Hey #Monal users!

Do you sometimes have problems playing a voice message in Monal and you need to restart Monal to play it?

The @Monal team fixed this issue a few days ago, see:
https://github.com/monal-im/Monal/commit/da100811a50cbffdc51cb842e82b3094cda93a3a

I tested the beta and the voice messages are playing perfectly now.

Thank you @Monal

Can't wait for the official app store release!

#xmpp

@fruitchypear

More funding for #Jabber/#XMPP would be nice, but please not too much. As soon as significant #VC is involved, #enshitification is inevitable.

Just imagine if #XMPP had the same level of funding that other projects have.

Despite this, I love how the ecosystem keeps moving towards the future.

https://indieweb.social/@joinjabber/116136409674223581

It's the first sunday of March and it's Digital Independence Day again.

If you would like to spend some minutes to install an independent messaging app and get a cool indie messaging address, you might have a look at:
https://imday.de/en/

And don't panic: It's easier than you might expect.

#did #didit #xmpp #whatsapp #diday

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An image showing some four muffins on a plate. On the plate there is an XMPP logo. On each muffin there is a logo of an XMPP app (Quicksy, Monal, Conversations, Snikket). Image source: https://codeberg.org/ge0rg/fosdem-2026-xmpp-diday/src/branch/main/images/muffins-with-logos.jpg

@fluepke

Ich habe #diday gar nicht so verstanden, daß es irgendjemandem irgendwas vorschreiben wollte oder auch nur könnte. Das wäre nicht nur übergriffig, sondern vor allem megalomanisch.

Und ich habe es auch nicht so verstanden, daß es um #digitaleUnabhängigkeit bzgl. eines bestimmten Staates geht.

Signal hat aber tatsächlich mit dem Thema #digitaleSouveränität nichts zu tun. Dafür gibt's z.B. #Jabber/#XMPP u.a. föderierte IMs.

https://framapiaf.org/@debacle/115804383499425330

Debacle boosted

Debacle [they/he/she/whatever] » 🌐 2025-12-29
@debacle@framapiaf.org

You like Signal for it's outstanding #confidentiality? Fine!

You like Threema, since it's safe, it's from #Switzerland, and #ElsbethSigmund as #Heidi was your #childhoodCrush? Great!

You like Whatsapp, because your friends are there? I don't blame you!

But 𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞 don't claim, that any of those #centralServices would support #digitalAutonomy, #digitalIndependence, #digitalSovereignty. They have their merits, but they still are #walledGardens.

#instantMessaging

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Elsbeth Sigmund as "Heidi" (CH 1952)

Dear friends,

Our Hetzner server's bill, hosting Diasp.in, Durare.org and Poddery.com XMPP services for December 2025 and January 2026 is - €8.18 (~ ₹880). These are public services, maintained by volunteers and sustained on donations by people like you. Please help us by either sponsoring this expense or a part of it.

Continued...

#xmpp #prosody #durare #hetzner

Historically, events like Meta announcing ads in WhatsApp haven’t significantly impacted #Conversations_im download numbers. This time feels different. February saw double the installs of a typical month. It seems the sentiment against Big Tech is finally translating into action.

#DiDay #XMPP

@lil5

I'ld be interested to read about the IRC moderation features, that #Jabber/#XMPP does not (yet?) have! I can imagine room for approvement.

Btw. I'm the author of a simple moderation bot, #CrowdMod:

https://salsa.debian.org/debacle/crowdmod

But why should an XMPP server not run on 20 yo hardware? It's pretty lightweight! Admins can decide, how much disk space they want to assign e.g. for message archiving and files.

IRCv3 is better than Matrix or xmpp

Easier to host, easier to moderate & is able to run on 20year old hardware

#irc #matrix #xmpp

❗ XMPP et CONVERSATIONS ❗

🇫🇷 Si vous utilisez XMPP et Conversations sur Android, lisez la suite ! Sinon, vous pouvez ignorer ce message.

Avec la dernière mise à jour de Conversations, il est nécessaire de modifier un paramètre dans l'application : allez dans Paramètres / Sécurité et désactivez l'option TLS Version 1.3 (voir photo d'écran jointe). Vous devrez peut-être vous reconnecter et accepter le certificat avec "OK".

Si vous ne faites pas cela, la connexion à votre compte XMPP ne fonctionnera plus.

Je ferai une mise à jour du serveur prochainement pour éviter cette manipulation.

Vous pouvez toujours vous connecter également par tout autre client et notre client Web : https://chat.gayfr.online

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🇬🇧 If you use XMPP and Conversations on Android, read on! Otherwise, you can ignore this message.

With the latest update of Conversations, it is necessary to change a setting in the app: go to Settings / Security and disable the TLS Version 1.3 option (see attached screenshot). You may need to reconnect and accept the certificate with "OK".

If you do not do this, the connection to your XMPP account will no longer work.

I will update the server soon to avoid this workaround.

You can always also connect through any other client and our web client: https://chat.gayfr.online

#XMPP #Conversations #GayFR

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Sécurité de transport forte. Nécessite le protocole Transport Layer Security (TLS) Version 1.3 pour toutes les connections.

Some of you may have experienced some authentication issues the past few days on https://mov.im/ 😬

I am currently testing the new scalable architecture. We are reaching -90% of RAM usage but there is some session management optimization that are still a bit unstable. This should be fixed in the upcoming days, and if everything is okay, merged in the main branch ✨

#movim #xmpp #optimisation #ram

📢 Oyez, oyez : XMPP web 0.11.0 est sorti cette nuit. Changements : ajout du support des réactions 😉 et upgrade technique.
Liens vers l'archive et l'image docker disponibles ici : https://github.com/nioc/xmpp-web/releases/tag/0.11.0
Preneur de vos retours #dev #xmpp

A new position for a Backend Developer (BiP) has been added to the XMPP Job Board! Find the full job listing at: https://xmpp.work/job/backend-developer-bip/ #XMPP #getFediHired #fedihire #jobs

Gajim 2.4.4 has been released! 🎉

This release comes with link previews 🖼️ and many improvements for macOS .

Thank you for all your contributions ❤️ Let us know what you think!

Support Gajim's development: https://liberapay.com/Gajim

#gajim #xmpp #chat

https://gajim.org/posts/2026-02-25-gajim-2.4.4-released/