Looking at @movim@piaille.fr and #XMPP and it's got me thinking about how XMPP could be used for our Chat systems across the Fediverse... Like why don't we use it?

I'm not massive into backend coding so I'm probably missing something obvious but it does seem like it's worth a look.

#Fediverse #FediverseChat #ETEE #FediverseXMPP

Les recordamos que nuestros servidores, además de proveer esta distinguida instancia , también aloja un servidor XMPP que es incluso, anterior a la instancia de Mastodon . Es de los primeros servicios que tuvimos en Undernet junto con el correo electrónico . XMPP es un sistema de mensajería federado y descentralizado , como Mastodon, donde cada servidor tiene cuentas, y puede agregar cuentas de otros servidores y asi chatear. Existen salas públicas y privadas a las que uno puede unirse o crearlas si no existen. Nuestro admin @gabriel ha hecho una recopilación de muchas de estas salas en su blog --> https://publicar.uy/salas-de-mensajeria-xmpp-en-espanol/ XMPP es un protocolo que existe desde fines de los 90s y se le han ido agregando cosas, porque es un protocolo modular. Hoy en día se pueden hacer hasta llamadas de audio y video , compartir imágenes , ubicación ... etc. Nuestro servidor al igual que Mastodon Uruguay, y todos los servicios de Undernet, están integramente alojados en Uruguay en forma autogestionada e independiente 🇺🇾 y tiene en total unas 300 cuentas registradas en los dos dominios que administramos que son @undernet.uy y @buzon.uy de las cuales se conectan diariamente unas 70+ . El servidor esta conectado con otros 600 servidores XMPP. Si no lo probaste, podes bajarte un cliente como Conversations, Monocles, Xabber para android, Snikket para iPhone o Gajim y Dino para Lunux e incluso clientes para terminal y registrar una cuenta en nuestro servidor u otros. Si quieren más información o consejos, pueden dejar un comentario debajo 👇 #undernet #uruguay #xmpp #jabber #autogestión #mensajería #instantánea #mensajes #conversations #android #prosody

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Usuorios de Undernet conectados al servidor

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Conexiones de nuestro servidor con resto de la federación

@pixelschubsi @orva Hi, I'm the author of https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/av_conferences.html . The spec is not abandoned at all, it's still WIP following change requested by XMPP council (notably working with a single Jingle session).

I have actually an experimental implementation in Libervia, with a component based on Galène SFU. I'll go back to that, but I'm working on many things, so it takes time.

Note that I'm also working on experimental remote desktop control feature.

#XMPP #av #calls #Libervia #SFU

It will be time to prove that Libervia is not the Hurd of XMPP 😀

Soon, soon.

#Libervia #XMPP #hurd

I'm finishing the implementation of contacts e2e encryption. This has been done in the context of the serverless metadata reduction grant (https://nlnet.nl/project/ServerlessXMPP/). As the name implies, it let you encrypt metadata on your contacts (name, groups, description), but can also be used to extend roster metadata.

On other fronts, we have talked about sealed sender at last summit (notably @daniel) and @mathieui made a great suggestion about onion routing in XMPP.

#Libervia #XMPP

This will be interesting to watch: https://www.process-one.net/blog/introducing-fluux-messenger-a-modern-xmpp-client-born-from-a-holiday-coding-session/

If they can succeed in pairing a solid client with ejabberd for a marketable pair, they might just give Matrix a run for their money.

#xmpp

Tonight's Spaces status:
- Invitations link, join request and request reply done ✅
- Space rooms changes (add/remove) synchronization done ✅
- Affiliations synchronisation between the Space and the Space rooms done ✅
- Basic notifications counter done ✅
- Basic messages exchanges done ✅

Already more than 100 files changed and +2500 lines added in the project! 🫣

Do you want to support me adding Spaces (and many other awesome features) in Movim? https://movim.eu/#fund ✨

#movim #discord #xmpp #spaces

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Screenshot of the Spaces in Movim

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Github Movim

I asked an AI (please forgive me, but it did actually save me a lot of time researching), what the largest #Discord communities are, for #OpenSource projects.

I generally dislike AI, but dislike Discord even worse, BTW.

I figured it might be realistic to appeal to these communities' sense of OpenSource values (taking advantage of recent controversy, and shift in sentiment against Discord), to migrate to, say, a #Flarum forum (or #XMPP, etc) instead:

Top 20 Open Source Projects on Discord (by Members)

| Rank | Project | Members | Description |
|------|---------|---------|-------------|
| 1 | #RPCS3 | 481,000 | Open source PlayStation 3 emulator |
| 2 | #OBS Community | 244,000 | Open source streaming/recording software |
| 3 | #Reactiflux | 222,000 | #React, Redux, GraphQL community |
| 4 | #HomeAssistant | 126,000 | Open source home automation platform |
| 5 | #Vue Land (Vue.js) | 122,000 | Vue.js frontend framework community |
| 6 | #osu! | 106,000 | Open source rhythm game |
| 7 | #Electron | 81,000 | Open source desktop app framework |
| 8 | #Godot Engine | 64,000 | Open source game engine |
| 9 | #Rust Community | 66,000 | Rust programming language |
| 10 | #NestJS | 52,000 | Node.js framework |
| 11 | #TypeScript Community | 51,000 | TypeScript language |
| 12 | #Laravel | 39,000 | PHP framework |
| 13 | #Tailwind CSS | 37,000 | CSS framework |
| 14 | #Flutter | 61,000 | Google's UI toolkit |
| 15 | #Deno | 17,000 | JavaScript runtime |
| 16 | #Manim | 17,000 | Mathematical animation engine |
| 17 | #JetBrains | 40,000 | IntelliJ platform community |
| 18 | #Sentry | 35,000 | Error monitoring platform |
| 19 | #Quasar | 28,000 | Vue.js framework |
| 20 | #LibreNMS | 20,000 | Network monitoring system |

Key observations:

- RPCS3 (PS3 #emulator) is the largest with nearly half a million members
- OBS Studio is the largest productivity/tool open source project
- Game emulators and game engines have massive communities
- #JavaScript/TypeScript frameworks (React, Vue, NestJS) have very active communities
- Home automation (Home Assistant) has a huge community due to DIY enthusiast adoption

Note: These numbers fluctuate constantly as members join and leave. Data gathered from Discord server listings in early 2025.

Hello ActivityPub Fediverse!

Queer Spark is a platform for marginalized people and allies to build communities together! It is built on Jabber/XMPP.

More info: https://www.queer-spark.org/en/

News: https://movim.queer-spark.org/community/pubsub.queer-spark.org/queer-spark

#xmpp #diversity #lgbtqia #queer

Moxxy becomes expressive

After a year-long hiatus, I'm back to working on the #Moxxy user interface. This time, I've added an onboarding process for new users and redesigned the home screen, which is now cleaner and offers more features.

https://ailyaut.com/blog/moxxy_becomes_expressive.html

#xmpp #ui #uidesign #MaterialDesign #MaterialExpressive #penpot #opensource

I have tried to deploy #Snikket. Gave up after I didn't manage to convince it to not manage TLS certificates itself.

I have tried to deploy #Prosody, Snikket's underlying project. Gave up after I didn't manage to configure it enough for it to be happy.

I have tried to deploy #ejabberd. Gave up after I realized how underdocumented and confusing the configuration is, convinced I wouldn't be able to secure it enough.

Is there really no good #XMPP server that would just work? I am annoyed.

Alright, so since #Discord has hit the timed self-destruct button, we've been thinking about alternative chats... Aaannnd so far, it looks a bit spotty.

I really like the design and functionality of #XMPP, and it *would* be my favourite - if it weren't for the *slight* lack of feature-rich clients.

In fact, I wrote a blog post about it!

https://lucidragons.de/blog/2026/2026_02_20_loving_xmpp.md

I really hope projects like Spacebar get XMPP integration, then we got a *really* great solution. But work's still needed.

Y'know what? I do not want a #mobile #phone.

What I **want** is phone services on my laptop. We're talking voice and video calls, messages, and equivalent answering/recording services.

We have all these possible via #XMPP, now, but none of them are easy to use.

So, sorry about Android, but I really do not want anyone to put the effort into fixing it. I won't back that. But I will back projects enabling me to use my current hardware instead of a pocket spy.

@debacle @finn @movim

Does the #XMPP standard specifies federation. It seems to be the only way to overcome limitations of the network effect.

I had the joy(/s) of trying out the block feature in a MUC in Gajim today. Works great! I see "Messages from this users are blocked", which is good because I can tell there's something in the flow but I don't have to read the awful take. I mention this because the default /ignore behavior in IRC is to not display anything, and to get the placeholder display behavior you usually need a plugin/script.

#xmpp

@finn

Spaces are coming now to #Jabber/#XMPP, which seems to be a fundamental feature of Discord. The leading client for that feature is #Movim by @movim

https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/help-movim-reach-its-goals-for-2026-LQext9

And a Matrix bridge powered by #slidge is already included. Cool!

Did people already decided which network would be a good Discord alternative?

Will it be Matrix, XMPP or something else?

Whatever it will be, I hope it won't be another proprietary, business owned, closed network.

/me keeping my fingers crossed for good old IRC

#Discord #ageverfication #xmpp #matrix #irc

Alright y'all, what #XMPP bridges are good? I want to try and move more of my messaging stuff to one app

RE: https://piaille.fr/@movim/116098387611211972

The crowd has spoken! 📢

We had many requests yesterday to ask us if we accept #Liberapay donations.

Well here we go 😸 https://liberapay.com/movim/

The link was also added on the main page, Github and related articles ✨

#movim #donation #xmpp

Debacle boosted

Movim » 🌐 2026-02-19 / 2026-02-19
@movim@piaille.fr

Significant progress has been made over the past few days on the Space feature, bringing it closer to reality ✨ Here's a small preview of the current development branch 👀

To help cover the project's annual expenses and free up more time to focus on these exciting new features, I've launched a fundraising campaign for 2026 🌡️🪙😸

➡️ https://movim.eu/#fund

I've also shared full details about the different goals and how you can help me achieve them in 2026 in a detailed post on the official blog: https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/help-movim-reach-its-goals-for-2026-LQext9 📄📢

And don't forget to spread the word! 2026 will be a truly exciting year for Movim for sure 🤩

#xmpp #movim #fundraising #fund #discord

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A screenshot of the Space feature

@zeank @BluRaf @movim

Here an example of #Movim #stickers selection.

#Jabber #XMPP #raccoon #ZeMarmot #monsters

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Movim stickers selection. Empty.

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Movim stickers selection. Raccoons.

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Movim stickers selection. ZeMarmot.

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Movim stickers selection. Monsters.

Significant progress has been made over the past few days on the Space feature, bringing it closer to reality ✨ Here's a small preview of the current development branch 👀

To help cover the project's annual expenses and free up more time to focus on these exciting new features, I've launched a fundraising campaign for 2026 🌡️🪙😸

➡️ https://movim.eu/#fund

I've also shared full details about the different goals and how you can help me achieve them in 2026 in a detailed post on the official blog: https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/help-movim-reach-its-goals-for-2026-LQext9 📄📢

And don't forget to spread the word! 2026 will be a truly exciting year for Movim for sure 🤩

#xmpp #movim #fundraising #fund #discord

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A screenshot of the Space feature

@eliocamp

I never used Matrix on a mobile device. Maybe for that use case #Jabber/#XMPP is a better option?

I mainly use the latter, but also Matrix via #slidge as gateway. My account is on matrix.org.

If Matrix isn't your cup of tea ^W^W^W mate of yerba, the best Jabber client for Discord migration seems to be #Movim by @movim atm.:

https://mov.im/post/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/help-movim-reach-its-goals-for-2026-LQext9

I set SRV records for _xmpps-{client,server}._tcp.example.org. Prosody docs don't mention those anymore (but other websites do) and `prosodyctl` complains about "unknown Direct TLS port". Are they deprecated? Do I need them or can I make use of them at least?

#prosody #xmpp

Conversations (via #UnifiedPush) is the backbone that gives #Matrix its reliable and timely notifications. An eventually consistent graph database is a nice concept, but it takes #XMPP to put the real-time into real-time communications.

#ThatsXMPP

@botler @nik @r

Ärgern darfst Du Dich natürlich und es wäre schön, wenn das Löschen ein bisschen häufiger klappte als derzeit.

Vielleicht hat der semifederierte (oder semizentralisierte?) Ansatz von #XMPP da sogar (relative!) Vorteile?

Gruppenchats (#MUC) sind jeweils nur auf einem Server. Nachrichten, die aus dem Message Archive gelöscht sind, sind dort weg. Was natürlich nicht verhindert, daß sie in den Client-Caches liegen oder jemand ein Web-View eines Chats ins Netz…

(1/2)

#Jabber

@wuerglerit @svhaag

While I like #Jabber/#XMPP and use it every day, I don't see it as alternative to videoconferencing like Zoom or Google Meet, yet. People are working on it, but don't hold your breath.

For now, I suggest #JitsiMeet and #BigBlueButton, which work pretty well. Never tried #NextcloudTalk or #OpenTalk, but people keep recommending them.

Of course, it always depends on your instance.

@svhaag
Good old #XMPP in my opinion seems to have a bit of everything, especially for small groups: Messenger/Chat, Audio/Video calls, depending on the client, e. g. Conversations (Android), Dino (Linux) and many others. Not really as complicated as rumours suggest 😄

https://xmpp.org/software/

#Quicksy is getting an unusually high amount of registrations from Russia and the US. I wonder if these two countries have something in common.

#XMPP #Jabber

Tolles Ding, aber wird wahrscheinlich auch eher klein bleiben

https://movim.eu/

#movim #xmpp #network

As I use #Conversations #XMPP client to chat with my family I configured it to be also an #UnifiedPush distributor.
This reuses the already existing XMPP connection to also serve other android apps for push messages.
On server side I used #ejabberd community module mod_unified_push.

It works nicely.
When I update event in nextcloud, DAVx⁵ gets notified and update is immediately synced to phone.
When I get new notification on Mastodon, Tusky is notified and notification shows on phone.

I hope more apps are going to support this in near feature.

Quite nice to see some networks being supported that are lesser known in the west. Apparently there is a sizable number of Chinese XMPP users these days.

@stefan @f @deusfigendi

Mitte/Ende der 1990er mal ein bisschen IRC, in den 2000ern testweise #Jabber (mein antiquarischer @jabberdotorg Account existiert noch!), aber beides schnell wieder eingeschlafen, zugunsten von SMS.

Dann wollten wir ≈ 2014 Chat in der Firma und haben uns für Jabber (#Prosody) entschieden. Seitdem nutze ich es viel, auch privat. IRC, SMS und Matrix via #XMPP gateways (#biboumi, #sms4you, #slidge).

Alles andere nie probiert:

https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9

Was war eure Messenger-Journey? Welcher Messenger war bei euch mal 'ne Weile die Nummer 1?

Bei mir war es so:

#TelMe
#SMS
#ICQ
#IRC
#XMPP/#Jabber
#Telegram
#Signal

nie auf Platz 1, aber in Nutzung waren bei mir:
#MSN, #AIM, #Y!M, #Skype, #Threema, #WhatsApp, #Matrix, #Tox, #DeltaChat

An mehr aktiv benutzte kann ich mich nicht erinnern, wie war es bei euch? #Slack dabei? oder #Teams? Vielleicht #RocketChat?

@f @deusfigendi

#IRC #ICQ #SMS #XMPP
(Ganz kurz #Threema - aber zum Glück schnell wieder los geworden).

Aktuell #XMPP als Nummer 1 und für ein Projekt #IRC.

I first installed an XMPP server back when it was Jabber over 20 years ago, and I remember chatting to people on Google Talk, before they decided to do their own thing. Having just installed Prosody (#XMPP) and Tuwunel (#Matrix) servers, both of which are excellent, I am personally of the opinion that XMPP is a lot more sensible.

#InstantMessaging #FOSS

I'm so hyped by this Pull request, can't wait !!

https://github.com/conversejs/converse.js/pull/3906

#xmpp #converseJs #webchat

Very nice post of @mattj about @snikket_im and @prosodyim relationship & goals in #xmpp ecosystem

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47034801#47037214

Bon par contre le problème des message non lisible d'un client a l'autre ... ça refroidi très vite ​​

#XMPP #Movim #MonocleChat #ConversationIM

Okay, I have an #XMPP/#Jabber question that I can't find a great answer to.

On fedi, I can have an alias @liv@oliviaappleton.com that points to my profile. Is there a similar thing I can do for XMPP? I would ideally like to redirect to an arbitrary domain, so like liv@oliviaappleton.com would point to username@example.com

Me, my ego and myself are trying #xmpp out.

Is someone here using it also or are there channels to recommend?

Thanks

Use protocols, not services: https://notnotp.com/notes/use-protocols-not-services/

Interesting read. Makes me want to set up an #xmpp server just to feel some level of #privacy against #surveillance. It feels like privacy and control of our own data is dead.

@TheLastOfHisName

It's funny to call #Movim a Discord alternative, because it started in 2010, Discord in 2015 🙂

https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9

@movim is not in that graph, because it's part of the #Jabber/#XMPP ecosystem.

Playing around with a Discord alternative called Movim. It's based on the XMPP protocol.

Hmmmmm..🤔

https://movim.eu

#DiscordMigration #Discord #DiscordAlternatives #XMPP #Mastodon #Tech

qui veut des bridges entre #xmpp et les autres messageries?

https://slidge.im

#slidge #movim

Use-case: Mitigating the iOS ecosystem poverty and storage space limitations on various other mobile devices that do have a browser.

(I cannot mandate what devices my users use, nor can I afford to buy them new ones.)

@grayhaven The Technical Council of the #XMPP Standards Foundation *explicitly rejected* a proposal that would enable a standardized use of AI via XMPP. The council consists of developers of OpenFire, Conversations, Dino, Cheogram, JMP and Libervia. I'm not sure in how far they have clear policies against the use of AI though.

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Excerpt of an XML document that describes a XEP proposal that was rejected. It reads <xep accepted="false"> <number>xxxx</number> <title>Communicate & Ask to AI</title> <abstract>This document defines a protocol for asking questions to an artificial intelligence or requesting it to make predictions.</abstract> <type>Standards Track</type> <status>ProtoXEP</status> <approver>Council</approver> <tags> <tag>template</tag> </tags> <last-revision> <date>2023-03-13</date> <version>0.0.1</version> <initials>ae</initials> <remark>First draft.</remark> </last-revision> <sig>Standards</sig> <proto-name>xep-ai</proto-name> </xep>