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Monal 6.4.11 (Build 1040, PR #1416) released.
To see the complete list of bugfixes and improvements, check our releases page: https://github.com/monal-im/Monal/releases/tag/Build_iOS_1040
Doesn't iOS have a decent terminal, so you could use #Profanity by @profanity there, too? 🙂
I assume, that both #Monal by @Monal and #SiskinIM by @tigase might need more support.
E.g. at the #Berlin #XMPP sprint this weekend: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2025-05_Berlin
The more I read about #XMPP the more I’m tempted to self-host it again (I used #prosody in the past), but I’m a bit hesitant due to #iOS clients situation. Should I be? Are there some good clients out there? On #macOS it’s not a problem as I can use #profanity just fine 🤔
A cool thing about #Matrix is that there are lots of excellent bridges between it and other chat protocols, including proprietary ones, which makes it simpler to provide access to Matrix users to chats which cannot currently be fully migrated there.
What's the bridging situation for other protocols, like #XMPP and #Chatmail?
@KuJoe
Thanks for the thread and the linked Mastodon hosting architecture. I'd love to see a write-up of the possible and reasonable architectural decisions that went into this, and how they can help reduce the Mastodon hosting bill.
As somebody running a 3k users #xmpp server on a ~15€/mo VM I'm also shocked by the huge numbers going around.
Having a #MUC open when certain admins are around and closed for new/untrusted accounts when not, sounds like a good idea, indeed!
It does not even need an #XMPP extension — this can be done by a bot, that runs on behalf of an admin.
Probably it is pretty easy e.g. with #slixmpp (#Python), but somebody™ (= not me!) has to write it — and convince the respective room admins of its usefulness 🙂
Next week, we have an XMPP sprint in #Berlin. Maybe someone is up to the task?
Google, #LetsEncrypt and the CA/Browser Forum continues its war against anything that isn't the Web. </ngate>
@gajim
Message retraction is a good thing but not supported by others clients (for example #conversations for Android).
I wish you implement audio and video calls like @dino does...
#XMPP
Gajim 2.2.0 has been released 🥳
This release brings three new features:
message retraction ↩️ , blocking participants in group chats 🛡️, and updated support for modern group chat avatars 🖼️.
Thank you for all your contributions! ❤️
Support Gajim's development: https://liberapay.com/Gajim
Mainly #Gajim by @gajim, but also #Dino by @dino for both #Jabber and IRC, the latter with #biboumi as bridge.
I would love to use #JabberEl in #Emacs, but it is far behind current #XMPP standards. #MAM? #OMEMO? HTTP upload? Last message correction? Message replies? Message reactions? Probably not yet 😞
@pixelschubsi @adbenitez @desirable_dialogue @daniel
I assume, that usage patterns are relevant for determining resource usage.
IIUC, Delta Chat transfers images (cat content) as email attachments? In #Jabber oob is used, either HTTP upload or #Jingle file transfer. Now, in #XMPP, there might be different retention times for #MAM and HTTP upload, and maybe quotas on the latter.
Pure text conversations might show a different result than having one with a lot of cat pictures, right?
'The Chatmail (#deltachat) servers require significantly lower resources to host users than Matrix – even less than #XMPP.'
Less then xmpp sounds promising. Where can I read more about it?
@desirable_dialogue I have a chatmail relay, it has +3.1k users, the server is using around 1GB of RAM, GPU is low used and idle most of the time, disk space for the whole operative system is around 5GB of it only like 3GB is actually the temporarily stored encrypted user deduplicated data blobs
I have never hosted #xmpp so I don't know how would a server with similar amount of users perform, maybe someone else can report
@adbenitez @desirable_dialogue maybe @daniel can share some insights on production experience of large #XMPP server setups?
PS: It's kind of weird how DeltaChat folks are rebranding and reusing decades old terminology. A chatmail relay server is both a mail relay and a mailbox server.
@pixelschubsi chatmail is just a name to refer to an email server fine-tuned for Delta Chat usage and with some extra features like push notifications and iroh p2p relay, being lightweight comes from the fact that it is an email server, and I doubt #xmpp is more lightweight on resources than posfix+dovecot but who knows?
a new name is needed if it is not exactly the same as your typical email server, don't know where you want to go with that kind of toxic comments
@debby #Mumble, #IRC, #XMPP (+OMEMO = @gajim / #monoclesChat) & #Linphone (#SIP / #VoIP) are the better options. #NextcloudTalk also exist and @monocles as well as @Stuxhost offer that.
#Signal and #Session are #proprietary, #centralized, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider solutions!
And #Matrix is just a shittier #XMPP+#OMEMO. Give @delta / #DeltaChat a try instead.
OfC #JitsiMeet and #WebCall are also great!
Now I need to find which client did this - either Gajim or Monocles.
@schnedan "xmpp works great" haha, yeah sure, people prefer #WhatsApp and #Telegram or even #DeltaChat because the apps are better (UI/UX-wise) while #xmpp doesn't have a concrete good brand/app that people can install and use and expect the same features everywhere (ex. iOS)
also it is easy to mess up and send unencrypted in XMPP, most groups are unencrypted because it is hard to get it working right in groups and multi-device
#XMPP Community
XMPP #Sprint in #Berlin on 23rd - 25th May 2025! It is open to all interested.
More details: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2025-05_Berlin
#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc
#opensource #decentralization #standard
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The #XMPP Newsletter for April 2025 is out!
Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our #standards!
https://xmpp.org/2025/05/the-xmpp-newsletter-april-2025/
Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕
#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc
#opensource #decentralization
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Where are the #XMPP conversations happening? Doesn't seem to be on here or even Bluesky. Scattered in a million MUCs with shitty, non-existent, or members-only chat history? Mailing list? Nowhere at all (seems the most likely at this point)?
@dgar Love the variety of synonyms for "died" 😆
Lessons to be learned -
• Boycott #proprietary software - use #FreedomRespecting software (a.k.a. #Libre / #OpenSource / #FreeSoftware) which is free of corporate control, and
• Boycott #centralized services - use #federated services so you aren't locked into one service.
#XMPP is still around, and thriving.
https://contrapunctus.codeberg.page/the-quick-and-easy-guide-to-xmpp.html
Thoughts on Matrix, XMPP, and reliability [SENSITIVE CONTENT]
Which client is it? Maybe it does not speak MUC-MAM (message archive management for group chats)? What are the MAM settings of the server? E.g. #prosody by @prosodyim defaults to one week for expiry, IIRC.
When I started using #Jabber (≈ 2014), reliability was not very good, indeed. Nowadays it is 100 % for me.
Compared to Matrix, I'm only missing "XEP-0503: Server-side spaces" and animated stickers in #XMPP 🙂
Thoughts on Matrix, XMPP, and reliability
As it turns out, I still can’t exactly recommend XMPP as a communication platform. I know a lot of people here on the Fediverse like and even prefer it to other platforms like Matrix, but it just doesn’t work reliably for me. Not years ago and not now.
I just opened the XMPP client on my other device, navigated to a public room (group chat) I’m a part of, and the last three days’ worth of messages didn’t show up. Why? I don’t know.
This room’s information says it should be ‘Persistent’ and ‘Archiving’. Maybe the messages are archived, but not shared to all of the room members’ devices. Maybe the room needs an extra setting to do that. Or maybe it already does that, but only if the client and the server both support XMPP Extension number 4,872 (Self-Propagating Persistent Messages, version 2).
It could just be this one room. It could be that the there are better clients that would inform me about this missing feature, but this one doesn’t. But as it stands, I apparently can’t just use XMPP and trust I’ll get to see the messages people sent me. With Matrix, I can. Sure, there might be a problem with encryption, but at least I’ll know someone tried to say something.
#lang_en #chat #free_software #Matrix #messaging #software #XMPP
Ich habe keine Erfahrung mit Mac, aber andere berichten von monal oder beagle.
Dino.im muss man irgendwie selber mit homebrew machen. Keine Ahnung wie erfolgreich das zuletzt geklappt hat.
