@delta @pixelschubsi @adbenitez

I absolutely agree, that "a cross-platform mass-user focused app with a consistent UX across the platforms" is missing desperately in the #Jabber/#XMPP ecosystem.

There are really good clients for Jabber, but none of them fits above description.

AFAIK, both #Snikket/#Borogove by @snikket_im and #Fluux by @ProcessOne try to close that gap.

Still, I prefer the approach of Delta building on #Rust and #Tauri, instead of #Haxe or #Typescript. #YKINMKBYKIOK.

I am very sorry for you to need to cope with this:

the best option for private chatting TODAY when it comes to #security, usability/user-friendly, #resilience, #digitalindependence and #freedom is #DeltaChat a chat app that uses #SMTP + #IMAP at its backbone, not your favorite "perfect" chat protocol, you don't need new better protocols, you need tools that actually work for the people

#xmpp #matrix #simplex #signal

@adbenitez It's easy to say that one doesn't need better protocols after those better protocols have become so ubiquitous that you don't even realize how you're using them yourself.

Apple APNS and Google FCM use #XMPP technology to deliver push messages instantly. All the other messengers listed (#Signal, #Element, #DeltaChat) thus use XMPP technology. Everyone uses XMPP, but when it is about marketing, suddenly XMPP is not necessary.

@pixelschubsi @adbenitez new protocols are fine. The point may rather be that contrary to popular nerd belief protocols are only one part of an effort. What distinguishes #deltachat from #xmpp is that one is a cross-platform mass-user focused app with a consistent UX across the platforms and using standards under the hood, while the other is a set of specs with many different implementations and UX approaches on the various platforms, and sometimes tenuous compatibility between them.

@wuffel

Hab's mal geteilt, auch wenn meine Bubble eher die von #Jabber/#XMPP ist als die von Signal. Aber machne haben ja beides oder nutzen es via Gateway. Bin gespannt, was ob Du was rausfindest.

@phalanx @davidmaddock @lorenzo

There is a tiny trigger in the original post, that is hard to ignore, though: The words "de-bigtech" and Signal together 😉

Signal is (according to themselves) inextricable from AWS and Google. It depends on #bigTech. That shouldn't be an excuse to derail questions, but it needs self-discipline 🙂

That being said, #Jabber/#XMPP might be a solution for the Signal desktop use case, with a (self-hosted?) #slidge gateway. Probably not easy.

https://slidge.im/

#XMPP #ejabberd is 200 the absolute maximum number of occupants that a MUC can have, or can I raise that somehow? #lang_en

@richardwonka @Good_News_Community

Thanks for mentioning Paligram! Never heard of it. Added it to my IM chart:

https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9

And 👍 to #Jabber/#XMPP, the "fediverse of chat" since 1999 🙂

@Good_News_Community

More trustworthy messaging alternatives:

- https://jami.net/ #jami
- https://github.com/berty #berty
- https://delta.chat/ #deltachat
- anything #xmpp / #jabber like e.g. #monal

(Not evaluated yet: #paligram)

#messenger #messaging #trust #floss #foss #infosec #privacy

@esmie

I never tried a peer-to-peer messaging app. How well does it work with multiple devices? I.e. I have #Jabber/#XMPP both at home and at my workplace. The devices are never switched on at the same time, until I clone myself 🙂 Still, thanks to the (trustworthy, self-hosted) server, all incoming and outgoing messages are synchronized. I wonder, if/how a peer-to-peer IM can do that.

@adbenitez @mosiwo @CafeJunkie

Schöner Vergleich 🙂

Sowohl bei Delta als auch Matrix als auch #Jabber/#XMPP kann man Servers selbst betreiben, man muß es aber nicht. Bei allen dreien gibt es die Auswahl. Bei Signal gibt's nur AWS von DJT-Buddy Jeff B. 😞

Wer unbedingt gerne die Telefonnummer als ID nutzen will (warum auch immer), kann #Quicksy oder #Prav nutzen, also "Jabber mit Telefonnummer als JID".

https://quicksy.im/

@CafeJunkie Das musst du dem HR schreiben und nicht mir. 🧐 Ich habe den Beitag lediglich geteilt. Aber du hast schon Recht. #Startpage ist in der Tat eine gute Alternative. Beim Messager ist es so eine Sache. Je mehr man die Sicherheit hochschraubt umso unbequemer ist es ja auch. Es geht ja darum einen Ersatz für den Otto Normalverbraucher zu haben. Da bietet Signal einen guten Mittelweg. Für #Conversations #XMPP z.B. braucht man wieder einen eigenen Server, da steigen viele ja direkt aus.

Introducing the Spaces section on the official website! ✨ https://movim.eu/#spaces

With awesome new arts from Rimou https://lematougraphe.fr/ 😸!

We are working hard to prepare the next release, with a loootttt of exciting things to show you, stay tuned! 😻

#art #movim #xmpp

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The Space section on the official website

I’m delighted to announce that the OpenPGP implementation in #Conversations_im will see some love over the next ~6 months. Simultaneously, we will be laying the groundwork for OMEMO2 by implementing Stanza Content Encryption.

Thanks to funding from @nlnet and the European Commission.

https://nlnet.nl/project/Conversations-OpenPGP-refresh/

#XMPP #Jabber #OMEMO #OpenPGP

Now #jabberEl 0.10.3 (the one with #OMEMO etc.) is in #Debian #experimental. If everything goes well, an upload to #unstable will follow soon.

#Jabber.el is living #XMPP and #freeSoftware #history, just like #Gajim by @gajim. Both started around the same time. The initial commit of Gajim was 2003-10-22, while jabber.els was 2003-12-15.

#Emacs, of course, goes back to the early 1980s.

@thanosapollo

@adminforge

Bleibt eben ein Basteldienst dieses Signal. 😅

Nichts gegen Molly und Eure Bemühungen, aber für unabhängige IT lieber dezentral.

z.B. #xmpp

@evan
> federated social networks on top of XMPP. I can think of Movim and Buddycloud for now. I don't know if any of them are still active

#BuddyCloud appears to be a dead parrot. But @movim is very much still active;

https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/bye-bye-discord-hello-movim-FunzTy

There's also Libervia, whose devs even built AP support;

https://libervia.org/news?search=activitypub

No recent news posts, but that's not unusual for @Goffi, and there are other recent signs of life;

https://libervia.org/tickets/view/482

#XMPP

@rabble @blaine @ralphm @kellan

@mathieui

When updating the #poezio package for #Debian I was surprised to find a .github directory in your source tree. Then I learnt:

https://codeberg.org/poezio/poezio/src/branch/main/.github/copilot-instructions.md

😆😆😆😆

#AI #Jabber #XMPP

Just fresh out of the oven, release 0.16.1 of the poezio TUI XMPP client!

Mostly fixes and internal stuff, but also adds the ability to see redacted/moderated messages if you wish so – particularly useful if you are the one moderating –.

https://blog.mathieui.net/poezio-0-16-1.html

#xmpp #tui #terminal #python #jabber

With persistent hard work by @vaidik_ Prav (@prav) is now available on iPhones!

Though with Apple rejecting it from App Store, installing it is a bit involved. You will need to setup http://SideStore.io and then add Prav source https://codeberg.org/prav/website/raw/branch/main/SidestoreiOS.json

#Prav #FreeSoftware #Apple #iOS #iPhone #OpenSource #XMPP

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Adding Prav source on SideStore

Ok, cool kids of XMPP! How do I find (new) chatgroups in XMPP/Jabber?

I made me a new XMPP acc yesterday and now it's kinda silent there. I'd like to change that. But I'm having problems finding (active) rooms. Back in the days there was a muc search on the web but I can't remember the address. :(

#XMPP #Jabber #MUC

We are exploring support for #MariaDB, #Firebird and #CockroachDB in Openfire. This includes early pull requests and discussion of trade-offs, maintenance cost and real-world demand.

We would love community input before proceeding further.

Is this valuable, or more trouble than it is worth?

#Openfire #XMPP #databases

https://discourse.igniterealtime.org/t/experimenting-with-mariadb-firebird-and-cockroachdb-support-in-openfire/96434

#XMPP Community

Vier Rezepte zur Nutzung eines offenen #Chat-Protokoll beim ‘Digital Independence Day’ ( #di_day )!

Erstellt von der XMPP Community um Menschen unabhängiges #Messaging zu ermöglichen.

https://di-day.xmpp.link

#conversations #dino #monal #snikket #whatsapp #signal #didit #did

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XMPP Extensions and Specifications (XEP)

Read about the new #XMPP #Extensions and #Specifications changes and updates in March 2026:

https://xmpp.org/2026/04/the-xmpp-newsletter-march-2026/#extensions-and-specifications

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #xep #standards #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging #newsletter

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The XMPP Newsletter for March 2026 is out!

Read about the latest updates in the #XMPP universe and our #standards!

https://xmpp.org/2026/04/the-xmpp-newsletter-march-2026/

Enjoy reading! ☕

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging #newsletter #xep

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#XMPP Community

Join the XMPP #Berlin #Sprint from 19th to 21st of June 2026.
Work side by side with developers from the XMPP community!

More information and registration here: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2026-06_Berlin

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #opensource #federation #messaging #Germany #development

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The XMPP Community Banner with the XMPP Logo and a triangle with three encircled colored person icons next to it.

Anyone out there that can recommend a good #XMPP / #Jabber client for #iOS that supports multiple accounts and is not Monal?

Bueno ... tenemos servicio de internerd pero detras de un CGNAT ... imposible hacer que #personal mande un técnico, la zona sigue con problemas, asi que esta esta noche nos saltamos el CGNAT y #cyberdelia vuelve ... estamos tratando de solucionar todo con lo que tenemos a mano, sin un mango porque #argentina y coso, limitando los servicios que damos al máximo, dando solo lo más crítico que es #XMPP ... al menos hasta que nos pasen a fibra, esperemos, veremos que nos depara la suerte.

Actually, even if you don’t care about #UnifiedPush, having this minimal #Prosody server that just accepts messages via a simple REST API and sends them out via #XMPP is great alternative to the various sendxmpp scripts out there.

https://gultsch.de/posts/xmpp-via-http/

Gajim 2.4.5 has been released! 🎉

Gajim now lets you know when somebody reacted to one of your messages 👍 😎
It also comes with automatic timezone updates ⌚ and improvements for macOS, and bugfixes

Thank you for all your contributions ❤️ Let us know what you think!

Support Gajim's development: https://liberapay.com/Gajim

#gajim #xmpp #chat

https://gajim.org/posts/2026-03-30-gajim-2.4.5-released/

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Gajim's notification feed showing a notification for a timezone update

Our combined booth for #UnifiedPush and #XMPP at #CLT2026 went great. There was huge interest in UnifiedPush, and we successfully funneled some of that interest into XMPP as well.
I think it's a great combination since those projects are ideologically well-aligned, and we will likely do it again.