@celesteh @Steldamm @kkarhan I run my own #XMPP server and still had to migrate my family to #Signal for for daily use because the app ecosystem is only so-so for it, especially on iPhone/Apple products. Never could get my family to receive push-like notifications when they got new messages, no matter what I tried.

Nothing's perfect, but some things are more perfect than others. :)

@artway @martin

Some friends use #Monal and they send me photos and voice messages (unfortunately). Things do work for them. I can't ask, what they do differently, because they are completely non-technical users. They don't even know, what #Jabber or #XMPP were. I.e. you encountered a problem, that is not that common. And instead of asking in the Monal groupchat or @Monal you prefer public ranting 🤷

@debacle @dnkrupinski

Okay, that was surprising, I need to learn more.

I prefer to use Conversations #XMPP for A/V as of now, seems to work.

@artway

Then it's not likely, no. You did not ask in the #Monal channel, right? 🤷

Don't forget, that Whatsapp is based on #XMPP, too. Also Zoom, FCM, Grindr, and the chat function in Fortnite and other online games. You might still be using XMPP 🙂

@torf @dnkrupinski

I don't use Delta myself, but TTBOMK, yes, you can do A/V calls with it. Other free and federated options are Matrix, and my personal favourite, #Jabber/#XMPP. They have A/V calls, too.

@artway

I use #Jabber/#XMPP since ≈ 2014. Works for me, for my friends, family, colleagues. Some (few) of them are on iOS and use @Monal successfully. Maybe they're holding it wrong? 😉

But seriously, instead of using an LLM, I'ld ask in the #Monal chat room:

xmpp:monal@chat.yax.im?join

Are you sure, it's not a server issue?

There now is even a debian backport version for emacs-jabber (aka jabber.el) - including omemo support:

https://tracker.debian.org/news/1750294/accepted-emacs-jabber-0106-1bpo131-source-all-amd64-into-stable-backports/

If you don't know debian backports yet:

https://backports.debian.org/

#xmpp #debian #backport #omemo #emacs

@celesteh @kkarhan @Steldamm@vivaldi.net @monocles

I guess, the correct pronounciation of #XMPP in #IPA is

'ʤæb.əʳ

https://framapiaf.org/@debacle/115804383499425330

#Jabber

Debacle [they/he/she/whatever] » 🌐 2025-12-29
@debacle@framapiaf.org

You like Signal for it's outstanding #confidentiality? Fine!

You like Threema, since it's safe, it's from #Switzerland, and #ElsbethSigmund as #Heidi was your #childhoodCrush? Great!

You like Whatsapp, because your friends are there? I don't blame you!

But 𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞 don't claim, that any of those #centralServices would support #digitalAutonomy, #digitalIndependence, #digitalSovereignty. They have their merits, but they still are #walledGardens.

#instantMessaging

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Elsbeth Sigmund as "Heidi" (CH 1952)

@celesteh @Steldamm Well, I use #XMPP+#OMEMO.exlcusively and the #Metadata-#FUD by #Signal fans is.moot given they demand #PII in the form of a #PhoneNumber and are subject to #CloudAct.

- There are simple & privacy-preserving options, like @monocles, which one can even pay for with #CashByMail and #Monero!

https://docs.monocles.eu/account/account/

@EA7KRC

Note, that DeepL will use AWS starting 2026-05-20. Servers in the EU, but still… Maybe #LibreTranslate is better?

Regarding chat, try #Jabber/#XMPP. It's the same technology powering Whatsapp, but free and federated — since 1999!

https://joinjabber.org/ by @joinjabber has more info.

Alternativen zu Whatsapp? Da kommen oft Dienst wie Signal oder Threema auf. Dies sind gute Lösungen, verwenden aber ein zentrales System: Alles liegt beim Anbieter. Wir setzen stattdessen auf eine dezentrale Lösung: XMPP ist ein offener Internetstandard für Instant Messaging. Ausprobieren könnt ihr dies mit Anoxinon Messenger oder einem Anbieter eurer Wahl.
Mehr Infos findet ihr bei https://anoxinon.de/dienste/anoxinonmessenger/ @xmpp. #XMPP #DIDit

Just (re)discovered #Quicksy. My Jabber ID is now listed. Thanks to @daniel #XMPP work!

Annndddd it's merged (in master).

+516 lines added and -2249 lines removed. Because sometimes you can make more with less 😽.

So for now you'll be able to join and leave audio and video calls in one click. You can also see who is calling in real-time in all the Groups you joined. 👀

The microphone level has been redesigned and the UI is now refreshing smoothly. 🎙️

Everything is working in full P2P and is based on the XMPP standard. No platform specific protocol.

You want to interoperate with Movim? Implement XEP-0272: Multiparty Jingle. Et voilà! ✨

Discord, brace yourself, FOSS, standard and federated alternatives are coming!

#xmpp #movim #discord

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the Movim call ui

Which is your favourite #Emacs #chat client?

#ERC #IRC #jabberEl #Jabber #XMPP #ementEl #Matrix

Upgrade time!

Package: #prosody
#CVE ID: CVE-2026-43504 CVE-2026-43505 CVE-2026-43506 CVE-2026-43507

Multiple security issues were found in Prosody, a lightweight #Jabber/#XMPP server, which could result in denial of service or insufficient access control when using the SOCKS5 proxy module.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2026/msg00163.html

#Debian #security #DSA #DoS

@glennmagusharvey

@movim ftw.!

#Movim #Jabber #XMPP

WOOHOO #DISCORD IS DOWN

LONG LIVE #FLUXER AND #MATRIX AND #SPACEBAR AND #STOAT AND #XMPP

Ich habe die Empfehlungsecke »Messenger« überarbeitet und klar nach Zielgruppen getrennt:

Einsteiger / WhatsApp-Wechselwillige:
Signal bleibt meist der realistischste erste Schritt, weil Bedienung, Reichweite und Alltagstauglichkeit passen.

Datenschutzbewusste Kleingruppen:
Threema ist stark bei Datenschutz und googlefreier Nutzung, wegen geringer Verbreitung aber nur eingeschränkt als Wechsel-Empfehlung geeignet.

Fortgeschrittene / Selbsthoster:
XMPP und Matrix für mehr Autonomie und föderierte Infrastruktur.

Profis / Aktivisten / Journalisten:
Briar für Risikolagen, in denen Sicherheit, Anonymität und Zensurresistenz wichtiger sind als Komfort.

https://www.kuketz-blog.de/empfehlungsecke/#messenger

#Messenger #Signal #Threema #XMPP #Matrix #Briar #Datenschutz

Something big is coming for audio and video calls in Movim 😯

You will soon be able to see in real time when your contacts are calling each-others in a group call and join whenever you want... leave, and join again.

Once everything is stabilized the feature will be added to Spaces.

We are this close to have audio (and video) rooms in Spaces 🤏

So, say goodbye to Discord, you'll soon have a fully web-based, Open Source, decentralized and standard calling platform to replace it. ✨

#xmpp #movim #discord

If you wan't to support me in this journey, I'm having a little crowdfunding campaign https://movim.eu/#fund 😽

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A screenshot of the new call system

I have finally started actually building my first node in what I hope to eventually become a local inter-neighborhood #MeshNetwork of nodes.

The premise is to have an open wifi access point #OffGrid both powered by solar and not connected to the internet, with a few simple things that might be useful to neighbors...

Not sure exactly what all it might have, but I envision at least a #Wiki ...

#EMail ? Mailing lists?
#XMPP ?
#SyncThing ?
#NNCP ?
#RSS feeds?
#Kiwix ?

𝗝𝗮𝗺𝗯𝘂𝗹𝗮 𝗢𝗦 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟲.𝟱.𝟬 is here!

A lightweight, open source Linux OS for Raspberry Pi 5, homelabs & offline-first edge deployments.

This release features:

✅ Local XMPP messaging
✅ Better 5 GHz Wi-Fi stability
✅ Simpler setup tools
✅ Protected against the Copy Fail vulnerability

Built for makers, tinkerers & self-hosters @homelab

https://jambula.org

#JambulaOS #Linux #RaspberryPi #Homelab #XMPP #CopyFail #DIY #HomeAssistant #SmartHome #IoT #OpenSource

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JambulaOS 2026.5.0: Terminal output displaying Raspberry Pi 5 system information, including date, uptime, IP address, OS version, CPU specs, and memory/disk usage via bar graphs.

A new position for a Decentralised Messaging Engineer - Rust has been added to the XMPP Job Board! Find the full job listing at: https://xmpp.work/job/decentralised-messaging-engineer-rust/ #XMPP #getFediHired #fedihire #jobs

A new position for a Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) Feasibility Study has been added to the XMPP Job Board! Find the full job listing at: https://xmpp.work/job/ballistic-missile-defence-bmd-feasibility-study/ #XMPP #getFediHired #fedihire #jobs

The past few months have been wild for Movim!

We hit our first fundraising goal of €1,700 (covering the basic costs) 🎉, shipped Movim 0.33 "Halley", and held an XMPP hackathon in the French Alps 🇫🇷 ⛰️.

Up next: Spaces upgrades, audio rooms 🎙️, better video calls & SFU support.

We published a detailed version on the Movim Blog there https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/first-2026-goal-reached-what-s-next-7cgeGX

Don't forget to share the good news and support us if you like the project. We still have a long way to go!

#movim #XMPP #opensource #european #discord #alternative

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Trézane

XMPP Extensions and Specifications (XEP) in April 2026!

Read about the latest #XMPP #Extensions and #Specifications updates and changes:

https://xmpp.org/2026/05/the-xmpp-newsletter-april-2026/#extensions-and-specifications

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #xep #standards #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging #newsletter

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The XMPP Specs banner with the XMPP logo and an orange document icon stating 'XEP'

The XMPP Newsletter for April 2026 is out!

Read about the latest updates in the #XMPP universe and our #standards!

https://xmpp.org/2026/05/the-xmpp-newsletter-april-2026/

Enjoy reading! ☕

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging #newsletter #xep

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The XMPP Newsletter banner with the XMPP logo and a letter symbol on the side.

Looks like I'll soon be able to start working on libomemo and OMEMO2 support for Converse.js. 🎉

My calendar has been cleared for the next month or so.

Some other #XMPP clients like Movim will likely also use libomemo once it's done.

Thanks to @nlnet for generously sponsoring this work 🙏

https://nlnet.nl/project/Converse.js-OMEMO/

A new position for a Tech Lead / Lead Developer - Krypto- och IT-säkerhetsprodukter has been added to the XMPP Job Board! Find the full job listing at: https://xmpp.work/job/tech-lead-lead-developer-krypto-och-it-sakerhetsprodukter/ #XMPP #getFediHired #fedihire #jobs

@chris @glatzle06 @annyhartmann

Gibt auch 'nen #Jabber/#XMPP chatroom zum Thema #mobileLinux im Allgemeinen und #Mobian und #PostmarketOS im Besonderen:

xmpp:mobile-linux@conference.conversations.im?join

#Linux #smartphone

@debacle @Lilith @delta Kommt drauf an.

#Freemailer haben z.T. strenge Limits was Die Anzahl an Nachrichten angeht.
- Bei Organisationen ist das weniger ein Problem.

Ich selbst nutz' #XMPP+#OMEMO weils das besser macht und weil ich seit >15 Jahren dies nutz…

@Lilith Bin ja immernoch der Ansicht dass @delta / #deltaChat sich für Organisationen anbietet, weil #PGP/MIME funktioniert und #eMail-Infrastruktur eh vorhanden ist.

- Nächstbeste ist #XMPP+#OMEMO weil ich kann #TechIlliterates binnen Minuten onboarden…

Heute probiere ich die Conversations App für #XMPP aus. Davor hatte ich mit Quicksy einen ersten Eindruck gewonnen, fand es aber Kontraproduktiv, das die Telefonnummer Teil der Adresse ist. Nun habe ich ein neues Konto. Noch habe ich leider fast keine Kontakte die XMPP nutzen.

Gibt es hier Leute die das nutzen und Kontakt aufnehmen möchten? Matrix habe ich mittlerweile auch auf dem PC, aber noch nicht mobil. Muss erst wieder Platz auf dem Handy machen.

#DiDay

Celebrating my #XMPP server's 23rd birthday by using it to talk to friends and family like every other day. #DID

#XMPP Community

Vier Rezepte zur Nutzung eines offenen #Chat-Protokoll beim ‘Digital Independence Day’ ( #di_day )!

Erstellt von der XMPP Community um Menschen unabhängiges #Messaging zu ermöglichen.

https://di-day.xmpp.link

#whatsapp #signal #didit #did #dut #indiemessaging

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Vier Schalen mit dem XMPP Logo und den Chatapp Logos darüber. Conversations, Dino, Monal and Snikket.

It's Digital Independence Day again and #Conversations_im, the best Jabber/XMPP client for Android, is currently available for free on Google Play.

Enjoy true independence with independent messaging. No central server. No venture capital. No 'non profits' with centralized decision-making.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.siacs.conversations

#XMPP #Jabber #IndieMessaging #DIDit

I have released version 1.15 of slixmpp, the python XMPP library.

Besides the continuation of @nicoco ’s quest to add every XEP under the sun, the most notable change is that building the rust module is now optional (i.e. in the absence of sufficient tools, slixmpp will happily be installed using the pure-python fallback for the JID module, which is kind of important for Mac OS or Winslop platforms).

https://blog.mathieui.net/slixmpp-1-15.html

#XMPP #Jabber #Python #slixmpp

@kevino1 @fruitchypear Actually it's not a problem at all to have OLDMEMO and TWOMEMO at the same time, that's what namespaces are for. Libervia on which I'm working does support both.

The main issue is that resources are spares, dev teams are small, and there are question of priorities. E2e encryption is time consuming to implement well.

#xmpp

A new position for a Cisco PCCE and Finesse Workflow Engineer has been added to the XMPP Job Board! Find the full job listing at: https://xmpp.work/job/cisco-pcce-and-finesse-workflow-engineer/ #XMPP #getFediHired #fedihire #jobs

Since yesterday #cyberdelia is down because of our ISP, we have setup an LTE failover but looks like we are not federating (some network configuration glitch maybe) so ... we are delivering minimal comms for our users ... if u try to join one of our #XMPP MUCs and see we don't reply or you can't join our MUCs ... that's why ... the technicians came yesterday changed the modem but they didn't activate it (face palm)