@wuerglerit @svhaag

While I like #Jabber/#XMPP and use it every day, I don't see it as alternative to videoconferencing like Zoom or Google Meet, yet. People are working on it, but don't hold your breath.

For now, I suggest #JitsiMeet and #BigBlueButton, which work pretty well. Never tried #NextcloudTalk or #OpenTalk, but people keep recommending them.

Of course, it always depends on your instance.

@svhaag
Good old #XMPP in my opinion seems to have a bit of everything, especially for small groups: Messenger/Chat, Audio/Video calls, depending on the client, e. g. Conversations (Android), Dino (Linux) and many others. Not really as complicated as rumours suggest 😄

https://xmpp.org/software/

#Quicksy is getting an unusually high amount of registrations from Russia and the US. I wonder if these two countries have something in common.

#XMPP #Jabber

Tolles Ding, aber wird wahrscheinlich auch eher klein bleiben

https://movim.eu/

#movim #xmpp #network

As I use #Conversations #XMPP client to chat with my family I configured it to be also an #UnifiedPush distributor.
This reuses the already existing XMPP connection to also serve other android apps for push messages.
On server side I used #ejabberd community module mod_unified_push.

It works nicely.
When I update event in nextcloud, DAVx⁵ gets notified and update is immediately synced to phone.
When I get new notification on Mastodon, Tusky is notified and notification shows on phone.

I hope more apps are going to support this in near feature.

Quite nice to see some networks being supported that are lesser known in the west. Apparently there is a sizable number of Chinese XMPP users these days.

@stefan @f @deusfigendi

Mitte/Ende der 1990er mal ein bisschen IRC, in den 2000ern testweise #Jabber (mein antiquarischer @jabberdotorg Account existiert noch!), aber beides schnell wieder eingeschlafen, zugunsten von SMS.

Dann wollten wir ≈ 2014 Chat in der Firma und haben uns für Jabber (#Prosody) entschieden. Seitdem nutze ich es viel, auch privat. IRC, SMS und Matrix via #XMPP gateways (#biboumi, #sms4you, #slidge).

Alles andere nie probiert:

https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9

Was war eure Messenger-Journey? Welcher Messenger war bei euch mal 'ne Weile die Nummer 1?

Bei mir war es so:

#TelMe
#SMS
#ICQ
#IRC
#XMPP/#Jabber
#Telegram
#Signal

nie auf Platz 1, aber in Nutzung waren bei mir:
#MSN, #AIM, #Y!M, #Skype, #Threema, #WhatsApp, #Matrix, #Tox, #DeltaChat

An mehr aktiv benutzte kann ich mich nicht erinnern, wie war es bei euch? #Slack dabei? oder #Teams? Vielleicht #RocketChat?

@f @deusfigendi

#IRC #ICQ #SMS #XMPP
(Ganz kurz #Threema - aber zum Glück schnell wieder los geworden).

Aktuell #XMPP als Nummer 1 und für ein Projekt #IRC.

I first installed an XMPP server back when it was Jabber over 20 years ago, and I remember chatting to people on Google Talk, before they decided to do their own thing. Having just installed Prosody (#XMPP) and Tuwunel (#Matrix) servers, both of which are excellent, I am personally of the opinion that XMPP is a lot more sensible.

#InstantMessaging #FOSS

I'm so hyped by this Pull request, can't wait !!

https://github.com/conversejs/converse.js/pull/3906

#xmpp #converseJs #webchat

Very nice post of @mattj about @snikket_im and @prosodyim relationship & goals in #xmpp ecosystem

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47034801#47037214

Bon par contre le problème des message non lisible d'un client a l'autre ... ça refroidi très vite ​​

#XMPP #Movim #MonocleChat #ConversationIM

Okay, I have an #XMPP/#Jabber question that I can't find a great answer to.

On fedi, I can have an alias @liv@oliviaappleton.com that points to my profile. Is there a similar thing I can do for XMPP? I would ideally like to redirect to an arbitrary domain, so like liv@oliviaappleton.com would point to username@example.com

Me, my ego and myself are trying #xmpp out.

Is someone here using it also or are there channels to recommend?

Thanks

Use protocols, not services: https://notnotp.com/notes/use-protocols-not-services/

Interesting read. Makes me want to set up an #xmpp server just to feel some level of #privacy against #surveillance. It feels like privacy and control of our own data is dead.

@TheLastOfHisName

It's funny to call #Movim a Discord alternative, because it started in 2010, Discord in 2015 🙂

https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9

@movim is not in that graph, because it's part of the #Jabber/#XMPP ecosystem.

Playing around with a Discord alternative called Movim. It's based on the XMPP protocol.

Hmmmmm..🤔

https://movim.eu

#DiscordMigration #Discord #DiscordAlternatives #XMPP #Mastodon #Tech

qui veut des bridges entre #xmpp et les autres messageries?

https://slidge.im

#slidge #movim

Use-case: Mitigating the iOS ecosystem poverty and storage space limitations on various other mobile devices that do have a browser.

(I cannot mandate what devices my users use, nor can I afford to buy them new ones.)

@sb @blackwolf

Note, that some #Jabber/#XMPP developers are working hard on getting Discord-like features, esp. #Movim by @movim, esp. "spaces" (which were "servers" in Discord lingo?)

https://mov.im/post/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/bye-bye-discord-hello-movim-FunzTy

@blackwolf
I just got my band set up on a #selfhosted #Matrix / #Element. This is controversial for a number of reasons - but I'm comfortable doing the grunt work to make it happen in a way I can live with.

For my non-techie friends coming over, it's close enough and they picked it right up. Our needs are basic and are covered.

I realise this will not fit everyone's needs, and it's a sprawling project choked with #enshittification at the moment, but if you can sift down through it all, you might find something that works. (Not very encouraging - I know. I'm sorry - it's a little dire out there.)

Another alternative that I run is #xmpp. It's less like discord than most Matrix clients, but it's fast and light - time tested and has e2ee.

There is also #NextCloud Talk. I don't use it much, but it works as well as xmpp or matrix in my experience.

Are there any communication/texting apps or software that are confirmed not to use any AI or LLMs in their code or coding process? Software with clear no-AI policies?

Self-hosting, E2EE, and open source would also be good, but for now I'm just wondering if there are any anti-AI chat app lists out there.

#AntiAI #NoAI #Discord #XMPP #Jabber #DeltaChat #IRC #NoLLM #NoLLMs

@grayhaven The Technical Council of the #XMPP Standards Foundation *explicitly rejected* a proposal that would enable a standardized use of AI via XMPP. The council consists of developers of OpenFire, Conversations, Dino, Cheogram, JMP and Libervia. I'm not sure in how far they have clear policies against the use of AI though.

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Excerpt of an XML document that describes a XEP proposal that was rejected. It reads <xep accepted="false"> <number>xxxx</number> <title>Communicate & Ask to AI</title> <abstract>This document defines a protocol for asking questions to an artificial intelligence or requesting it to make predictions.</abstract> <type>Standards Track</type> <status>ProtoXEP</status> <approver>Council</approver> <tags> <tag>template</tag> </tags> <last-revision> <date>2023-03-13</date> <version>0.0.1</version> <initials>ae</initials> <remark>First draft.</remark> </last-revision> <sig>Standards</sig> <proto-name>xep-ai</proto-name> </xep>

@aslmx @xmpp

I'm not in the protocol details, but as a lay person, I'ld:

1. Make sure to use a globally unique message id. Messages can have different ids, but there is one assigned by the server (MAM id?), that is the same across clients.

2. Assign a PEP node for pinning and either have one item with the list of ids (of the pinned messages) or, alternatively, have one item per pinned message id. No idea, what is better.

If there is a problem in #XMPP, the solution is #PEP/#PubSub. Always.

👀

#xmpp #movim #space #feature #discord #leaveDiscord

https://github.com/movim/movim/pull/1520

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Space preview

@aslmx

I agree.

It needs, however, a #XEP, so that a message I pin at my work PC on #Dino is also pinned when I'm at my home PC on #Gajim.

@xmpp

#Jabber #XMPP #conversations_im

Signal recently implemented and launched Pinning of messages

https://signal.org/blog/pinned-messages/

I really think it is a useful feature and have been using it in Mattermost and Slack for many years.

I hope #xmpp clients like #dino #gajim and #conversations_im will follow with a similar feature, maybe even making it possible to sync such message pins across clients.

Of all chat systems still in existence, only #Zephyr, #IRC, and #SMS are older than #Jabber/#XMPP:

https://mov.im/blog/debacle/76bf90a4-5f59-4962-92db-6cd859f42ec9

Not sure, if "write" and "wall" do count 🙂

Beberapa hari kepikiran kenapa gak ada yang bikin alternatif Discord/Slack tapi berbasis XMPP alih-alih bikin protokol sendiri.

Ternyata ada, cuma saya yang gak tahu 😌

https://prose.org/

#xmpp #discord #slack

@kattascha

Privat bestelle ich zwar nie etwas zu essen, aber für den #Berlin #XMPP #sprint 2025 haben wir das Mittagessen für alle in einem Restaurant bestellt.
Die haben das mit dem #Taxi gebracht! Es war für sie immer noch billiger so als die #Wegelagerergebühr der #Digitalfeudalismus-Plattformen! Ich war sehr überrascht.
Praktisch: So konnten wir problemlos #datenschutzfreundlich mit #Bargeld bezahlen!

Does anyone know of an XMPP echo bot address I can have a conversation with, to test my newly installed #prosody instance?

#xmpp #jabber

Quer testar o #fluux #xmpp #messenger da @ProcessOne @ejabberd ?

https://fluux.xmpp.eco.br/

Liberado para qualquer dominio. Incluso o do lemmy.eco.br e da galera que usa nossos serviços!

@xmpp

It’s the little things.

https://github.com/processone/ejabberd/pull/4531

#ejabberd #conversations #xmpp

@0x7700e6 you asked for it, we did it!

Movim can now stream your tab or desktop audio when doing a video call ✨

We also improved the layout to clarify when someone is streaming with a [Live 🔴] status and the current resolution of the streamed video.

A little note: audio sharing is not available on all the browser and OS, checkout the compatibility tab there: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Screen_Capture_API/Using_Screen_Capture#browser_compatibility

One of the many #Discord features that is now available on Movim and in the #XMPP ecosystem 💪😸

You want to help us in this awesome journey? Support us on our Patreon 🤗: https://www.patreon.com/posts/bye-bye-discord-150553921

Getting back to work, see you 👀!

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A screenshot of the Movim visio UI

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The original tweet asking for the feature

Après cette semaine j'ai quand-même envie de refaire un point sur les solutions alternatives à #Discord et où elles en sont selon moi :

• #StoatChat c'est bébé Discord, même UX, l'interface est un copié collé. Et raisonnablement je pense que tout le monde va aller là dessus comme tout le monde est parti de Twitter pour aller sur Bluesky. Et le problème ben... C'est que c'est bébé Discord, l'hébergement en open source n'est qu'un afterthought, c'est donc très centralisé et j'ai pas trop confiance dans le fait que ça soit pérenne en terme de techno libératrice.
• #Mattermost, #Zulip et similaires, c'est très bon en terme d'UX quand on vient de Discord même si l'aspect est sûrement trop corporate, J'pense que c'est la meilleure solution pour migrer immédiatement. Le problème étant que c'est décentralisé mais pas fédéré donc la charge technique et financière tombe sur les organisataires de communauté qui vont devoir chacun trouver et payer un hébergeur avec un tarif dépendant de la taille de leur communauté (ou se regrouper pour mutualiser ça mais ça fait aussi une charge organisationnelle en plus) et côté utilisataires on va se retrouver à potentiellement faire autant de comptes que de communautés qu'on rejoint sans que les applications tiennent compte de cet usage (elles sont faites pour être inscrit sur deux ou trois instances, pas 36) donc ça va être relou aussi.
• #Matrix c'est de la merde. C'est décentralisé et fédéré mais le réseau s'effondre dès que le gros serveur ramouille, en terme d'UX c'est le désastre, les applis sont mal fichues, affichent partout des messages incompréhensibles ou inutiles, rament de ouf, on nous parle de chiffrement à toutes les sauces (en termes obscurs) mais il y a plein de bugs bizarres et des problèmes de synchronisation entre clients et entre serveurs. Et l'implémentation des espaces (l'équivalent des "serveurs" Discord) a été faite par des gens qui ont pas compris à quoi ça servait.
• #XMPP c'est pas prêt. Ça a vingt ans et il y a un gros héritage du passé, l'UX est aux fraises, il y a des bizarreries à tous les coins de rue, les applications ont toutes les options de la terre et des paramètres par défaut aberrants. Mais c'est décentralisé, fédéré, il y a plein d'hebergeurs, ça peut absorber des afflux d'utilisataires sans broncher et sans faire tomber les serveurs des copains. S'il vous plaît les gens qui font de l'UX, allez voir les gens qui développent XMPP et s'il vous plaît, par pitié, les gens qui développent, écoutez les. XMPP le protocole c'est le turfu depuis plus de 20 ans, XMPP les clients c'est le passé depuis toujours, faut vraiment faire quelque chose même si ça semble aller dans la bonne direction. Faudrait sûrement aller petitionner les gens qui font #StoatChat pour qu'iels transforment leur truc en client XMPP en vrai. Là on pourrait dire go.

Et je vais essayer d'arrêter mon hyperfixation de la semaine sur ce sujet parce que je me fatigue, probablement je vous fatigue aussi et je pense que si je continuais là dessus ça serait juste redondant.

anybody have any xmpp public server recommendations?

#xmpp

If you're interested in setting up a secure chat service for you and your friends, you might want to try @snikket_im

🌱 https://snikket.org

It's really cheap to run and easy to set up, it's managed hosting so you don't need to do techy stuff.

Technical details: it runs on XMPP with OMEMO end-to-end encryption, but this is hidden behind non-technical branding so it doesn't scare people.

Instances are federated, Snikket and other types of XMPP instance can communicate.

#XMPP #OMEMO #E2EE

Started diving into XMPP today. I set up prosody and got it working with a few extra modules and components enabled, too. The Conversations client for android seems pretty nice, so I might keep adding features on the server as long as Conversations supports them.

#XMPP

@autistic_writer

Relevant hash tags: #Jabber #Movim #Quicksy #Snikket #XMPP — federated chat since 1999.

Uh, uh, uwu!

The guide I’ve been working on all week just went online!

It’s meant to help folks using the new invite feature.

https://joinjabber.org/tutorials/service/great_invitations/

You’re admin of an XMPP server and you (just) enabled mod_invites? Then this is for you! Share that link with your users so they can spread the fun!

#xmpp #greatInvitations #nlnet #ejabberd #prosody

Hey #xmpp and #jabber experts on Mastodon: my XMPP server is im.interfree.ca, and so my JID is fastfinge@im.interfree.ca. However, I would like to alias my JID to fastfinge@interfree.ca. That way my email, jabber, and fediverse id's are all the same. I control the DNS on the entire domain. How can I do this? A quick search isn't finding me a list of clear and straightforward steps.

"22 companies using XMPP and ejabberd to build instant messaging services"
Interesting to see how #XMPP, which tends to be seen as barely used, remains the go-to solution in the industry (which unfortunately locks it in a closed environment).
https://www.rst.software/blog/22-companies-using-xmpp-and-ejabberd-to-build-instant-messaging-services

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Graph listing 22 companies that use XMPP protocol and ejabberd servers to power their chat services. This includes Facebook, WhatsApp, Nintendo, Grindr, Zoom, Kik.

Joined back to Matrix to see what had improved. I would say it's still a bit buggy and slow, but overall I feel it became more mature. And then I was curious to check various github repositories related to Matrix development and... Wow. The other competitors, like #deltachat or #xmpp will not be able to compete with that speed of development. I bet that in the next couple of years Matrix will become a dominant messaging platform, at least among other #decentralized options.

#XMPP in a nutshell :

• Tu te demandes si tu peux faire tel truc
• On te répond que bien sûr tu peux le faire, c'est comme ça et comme ça
• Tu fais comme ça et comme ça, ton client mobile plante
• Tu essayes sur ton client de bureau, il plante pas, mais il enregistre quand même pas ce que t'as fait
• Tu demandes de l'aide
• On te dit que c'est peut-être ton serveur qui est pas compatible
• Les infos que tu trouves dans la documentation de la spec semblent indiquer que c'est une feature de base
• Tu vas demander sur le canal de support de ton client mobile, qui est aussi le fournisseur de ton compte et donc le mainteneur de ton serveur
• Les gens connaissent pas cette feature
• Tu expliques comment tu as fait
• On te dit que peut-être c'est le logiciel utilisé par le serveur qui supporte pas cette feature

J'ai envie d'y croire hein, je vous jure. Ce serait n'importe quel autre écosystème jamais j'aurai été lire la spec pour essayer de comprendre ce qui va pas. Mais franchement c'est pas sérieux.

Looking for an advice from #xmpp #ejabberd admins.

I have 3 Locations, that I can self-host there:
2 x Rpi 5 and 1 x x86_64

At the moment the service is running on lets say Location_1 that has SRV Prio 3.

There are total of 6 SRV records for domain.net
(3 for 5223 and 3 for 5270) each of them with different priorities - 3, 4, 5.

I am using PgSQL, and doing dumps every hour on the currently running Ejabberd. Then scp immediately the dump to the other 2 locations.

The idea is that I want to use the other locations for DR. When for example there is no Internet on the Primary Location_1 for hours.

What is the best approach to achieve this?

At the moment what I am doing:
Restore the latest available dump, then start Ejabberd. Clients will begin to connect to the this new Location_2

Hey @snikket_im
since web search is broken anyway and I got next message in #xmpp app

"OMEMO: Device 12312312313123123 is now inactive, because it is no longer advertised by your contact"

Could you please point based on your opinion the best xmpp docs/discussion

thank you

RE: https://piaille.fr/@movim/116057396961202427

N'hésitez pas à migrer de #Discord à #Movim ! Nous offrons un serveur gratuit sur https://chat.gayfr.online

Contactez-moi pour vous inscrire, ou suivez le compte @xmpp_bot pour créer votre compte #XMPP en un clic, avec lequel vous pourrez ensuite vous connecter sur Movim.

Debacle boosted

Movim » 🌐 2026-02-12
@movim@piaille.fr

Today we are launching our very first campaign to help you to migrate from Discord to Movim ✨

We already worked on some new exciting features regarding audio and video calls (that will be announced soon) and more are coming in the upcoming weeks 👀

If you want to help us free more time and support us for all the work done on Movim a Supporter tier was on Patreon for the price of a Discord Nitro subscription, 3€/month 😸

Stay tuned and spread the good news around 📢

The Movim Patreon page
https://www.patreon.com/movim

Our little blogpost about the campaign https://mov.im/community/pubsub.movim.eu/Movim/bye-bye-discord-hello-movim-FunzTy

#xmpp #movim #discord

Nginx is to HTTP servers what X is to XMPP servers. Can you help me find the value of X?

#AskFedi #xmpp #xmppserver
/cc @kyva

@eliocamp #xmpp just works