@Theeo123

#JohanaBhuiyan suggests to #autoDelete messages and I agree with her.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/20/how-to-opt-out-location-sharing-smartphones

While this is not a "hard" security measure and might lead to a false sense of security, it is an easy and effective method of #dataHygiene.

I wonder, if any #Jabber clients have this feature?

#Conversations by @daniel, #Dino by @dino, #Gajim by @gajim, #Monal by @Monal, #SiskinIM by @tigase, anyone?

#XMPP

Monal 6.4.6 (Build 989, PR #1288) released.

- Fix regression when connecting solely using old STARTTLS connection method
- Fix crash when being unable to connect while creating new account
- Fix connection problems on slow connections
- Show timestamp of last received push in notification debug menu
- Fix various other crashes

#Monal #ios #macos #xmpp #im #chat #messaging

@Monal @sbb I think everyone is assuming I use a phone for messaging. I do not, and never will unless there is absolutely no other alternative. I use my desktop computer, which right now is running #Ubuntu Linux although I hope someday to switch (probably to PopOS with the Cosmic desktop when it is out of alpha/beta), but before that I used to run a 2014 Mac Mini with MacOS until Apple decided it was too old to run the latest version of their ever-increasingly enshittified operating system. So when I talk about #XMPP clients, I am specifically talking about clients that run on the Linux desktop or are cross-platform.

#Monal only seems to be for iOS and macOS and right now I am not running either of those, so can't try it. I remember trying it a few years ago in MacOS and I really did not like it then for reasons I can no longer recall, in fact I continued to use Adium which was a older than dirt program but yet it was the easiest to set up and configure (in part because it did not insist that the server have a valid certificate before it would even communicate with it). However it could only do text; trying to send images or files would always fail.

Now I am using #Gajim which is the only client I have found that ticks most of the boxes for desired functionality. It's not absolutely perfect but it's very usable once you get it configured correctly.

Also, I am not at this point real interested in using a public XMPP server because I only use XMPP for two reasons, to talk to and send files to other family members, and to get certain status messages from a couple of servers. None of that needs to be on a public server. And the main reason I stopped using IRC was because I didn't like it because nothing was permanent or searchable (which may be an advantage in some cases, but not if you are using it for software support or tech advice, where you could miss an answer to a question you asked if you log out or lose your network connection unexpectedly). But for one off casual use (where some software maker still thinks IRC is the bees knees), it is possible to connect to a web-based IRC client and ask your question, without even setting up a client, in fact on some servers you don't even need to log in.

I'm not saying no one should use XMPP rather than IRC, there are almost certainly use cases where XMPP is the best choice, but you will never convince me that it's easier to use. Not that I would want to use either one for group chats, but with LIRC I can simply go to a server site and go to their web client, select a user name, and join a particular chat using the chat name. With XMPP I would need to install software, figure out how to connect it to a server (and probably login) and then configure it, knowing full well I'd be lucky to find more than a handful of people in the same room. IRC was great before we had web-based forums, but not that many people want to sit around and wait for someone to show up that they may want to chat with (gamers MAY be an exception to that but I am not a gamer so can't speak to that).

@sbb @maple what about #Monal? Not that there aren't any papercuts, too, but we're actively working on removing all of these by rewriting the entire ui using a more maintainable framework (swiftUi instead of uikit)

Unabhängig der Wahl von Anbieter und Anwendung können die Kommunikationsteilnehmer miteinander kommunizieren. Unabhängig ob es ein privater oder geschäftlicher Account ist. Unabhängig welches Betriebssystem man verwenden.

Jetzt kommt die Frage: Gibt es dies auch für Messenger? Antwort: Ja! Wir besprechen hier vom Protokoll #XMPP definiert in Standard RFC 6120, RFC 6121,RFC 6122,... Also wie HTTP, TCP/IP und vieles was man aus dem WWW kennt ist es ein IETF Standard.
Man kann den Anbieter frei wählen. Man kann seinen Client wählen. Viele Clients verwenden als Verschlüsselung OMEMO. Eine Verschlüsselung mit t Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) wie man es von Signal kennt.

Client Anwendung gibt es z.b. #Monal für iOS. #Conversations für Android. #gajim für Linux oder Windows #Dino für Linux.
Funktioniert alles ohne Handynummer.

Cc: @DeutscherBildungsserver@bildung.social @HBDI@social.hessen.de

Monal 6.4.5 (Build 982, PR #1258) released.

To see the complete list of bugfixes and improvements, check our releases page: https://github.com/monal-im/Monal/releases/tag/Build_iOS_982

Appstore install links:
https://apps.apple.com/app/id317711500 (iOS)
https://apps.apple.com/app/id1637078500 (macOS)

#Monal #ios #macos #xmpp #im #chat #messaging