@maexchen1 @eversten

So isses. Wichtig ist es, die Features, aber auch die Beschränkungen und Nachteile darzustellen. Damit hinterher niemand enttäuscht ist.

Das ist aber nicht Aufgabe des Rezepts. Da soll's ja vor allem um's einfache Onboarding gehen. Das ist aus meiner Sicht sehr gut gelungen!

Übrigens nenne ich es nur in Geek-Kreisen #XMPP, sonst lieber #Jabber. Wie man auch meist nicht von HTTP, sondern vom Web spricht.

Jabboratory has its own website at Codeberg pages now 🎉
https://jabboratory.codeberg.page/

Jabboratory is a safe space that develops XMPP and the Jabber network.

We do:
- write XMPP protocols, UI/UX guidelines, implementation guidelines
- Help XMPP implementations socially and technically, old and new
- involve, empower and remove any roadblocks for people to have their voice heard and directly change things in implementations they use or servers
- improve the Jabber network culture
and a lot more..

Our tech-free lounge is open to anyone that wants to be part of the conversation 😃
https://invite.joinjabber.org/#lounge@chat.jabboratory.org%3Fjoin

#xmpp #jabber #jabboratory #codeberg #XCSP #decentralized #federated #decentralization #privacy #diversity #standards

@frox @theron29 @lazarus @echo_xc @Tutanota

I agree, that this list leaves room for improvements.

Not mentioning the "fediverse of chat", #Jabber, which exists since 1999 and even is an IETF standard as #XMPP, is rude.

Signal, OTOH, depends 100 % on AWS and — Google. How is that degoogled?

If Google decides to censor a video on youtube, how do #invidious (which I adore!) and newpipe help?

If Google stops AOSP, will alternative Androids survive? Why not list #Mobian or #PostmarketOS?

@wilms @eversten @menel @maexchen1

Wir haben damals™ (≈ 2014) mit #Jabber als Teamchat in der Firma angefangen. Dann habe ich Familie und Freundeskreis infiziert. Mit #Quicksy wurde es auch für sehr "nicht-technische" Users einfach.

Wer keine Lust auf Telefonnummer als Id hat, sollte sich einen Server mit "invitations" suchen. Da kann eine Person die andere einladen und hat auch gleich die Verbindung.

Auch schön für neue Kontakte sind öffentliche Chats: https://search.jabber.network/ von @sjn

@Irisfreundin @ehtron

Wenn man kein Smartphone hat, Amazon nicht unterstützen oder die eigene Telefonnummer nicht an eine US-Stiftung geben will:

#Jabber-Account eröffnen und gucken, ob's einen passenden Raum gibt. Hier kann man sich 'ne Instanz suchen:

https://joinjabber.org/docs/servers/ von @joinjabber

https://providers.xmpp.net/#providers von @xmpp_providers

Das sieht einigermaßen passend aus, ist aber nicht Mint-spezifisch:

xmpp:angrytux@conference.trashserver.net?join

The only relevant feature for any instant messaging app (or social app, for that matter) is: Are my friends using it? People will gladly overlook minor inconsistencies or missing features as long as they can communicate with their friends. We shouldn’t recommend #Signal as a stepping stone before Jabber/XMPP becomes "good enough," if goodness is defined by the number of people using it.

#Jabber #XMPP #Conversations_im

@buntepanther @HeatmapofFascism @poVoq

Oh, that's a different #OX then 🙂

I meant #OpenPGP for #XMPP 🐂

https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0373.html

#Jabber

@poVoq

Wo is behind this? Is rallep71 <huepferralf@gmail.com> trustworthy or at least known in the #Dino community?
After the XZ incident, I'm more paran^Wcareful than before. Esp. if software is advertised as "most secure".

Anyway, if #DinoX does support #OX and #stickers, I'm already fan 🙂

#Jabber

@k

Check the server lists of @joinjabber https://joinjabber.org/docs/servers/ and @xmpp_providers https://providers.xmpp.net/#providers

#Jabber #XMPP

@felix_eckhardt @florianauer

Signal haben selbst geschrieben, daß sie aus AWS nicht rauskommen, selbst wenn sie wollten. Sie sind da so tief drin, es gibt keine Chance:

https://aboutsignal.com/news/signals-president-on-using-aws-the-real-problem-is-infrastructure-monopoly/

Außerdem nützt ein zentralisierter Dienst in der #EU in Sachen #digitaleSouveränität nichts für die ¹⁹/₂₀ der Menschheit, die nicht in der EU leben 🙂

Nur ein föderierter bzw. verteilter Dienst hift da weiter, z.B. #Jabber/#XMPP uvam.

@felix_eckhardt @wuethrich @florianauer

https://quicksy.im/

#Quicksy, was eine extrem einfache Nutzung von #Jabber/#XMPP erlaubt. Habe darüber schon vor Jahren extrem "untechnische" Leute in die Falle gelockt 🙂

Aaaand it’s released! 🥳

Ejabberd 26.01 ships a new module `mod_invites` that lets you create invites to either make it easier for others to add you to their contact list or create new accounts. Or both!

https://www.process-one.net/blog/ejabberd-26-01/

#ejabberd #GreatInvitations #nlnet #xmpp #jabber #onboarding

#Jabber is the worst form of #instantMessaging except for all the others.

#freeSoftware #digitalSovereignty #openStandard #IETF #XMPP

#XMPP Community

The Chat of the Future Initiative has its first focus session today from 18:00 UTC!
As chosen by the participants, the topics are User interface & User experience and new Community Events.

https://xmpp.org/2026/01/chat-of-the-future-initiative/

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #messaging #ux #ui

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Maybe one one of these animals would fit as a #Jabber or #XMPP #mascot? Which is the cutest one? Please #boost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stauroteuthis_syrtensis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_squid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceratioidei

#vampireSquid #squid #glowingSuckerOctopus #octopus #firefly #deepSeaAnglerfish #anglerfish

#XMPP Community

The Chat of the Future initiative has its first session today from 19:00 CET!

https://xmpp.org/2026/01/chat-of-the-future-initiative/

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #xeps #standards #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging

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#XSF Announcement

Join the 28th #XMPP #Summit taking place in #Brussels, #Belgium from 29th January.

https://xmpp.org/2025/11/xmpp-summit-28/

And visit the #FOSDEM 2026 were you can find the #Realtime Lounge, too!

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging

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#XSF Announcement

The XSF is considering to participate the #Google Summer of Code 2026!

If you are interested as a contributor or mentoring #XMPP project start reading here:
https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Google_Summer_of_Code_2026

#GSoC #chat #messaging #jabber #standards #opensource #interoperability #rtc #specifications

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#XMPP Community

The #XSF Communication Team announces a new initiative to help evolving the XMPP ecosystem. Join the cross-network workshop series!

https://xmpp.org/2026/01/chat-of-the-future-initiative/

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #xeps #standards #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging

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#XMPP #Extensions and #Specifications ( #XEP )

Read about the new XMPP Extensions and Specifications changes and updates in December 2025:
https://xmpp.org/2026/01/the-xmpp-newsletter-december-2025/#extensions-and-specifications

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #xeps #standards #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging

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The XMPP Newsletter for December 2025 is out!

Read about the latest updates in the #XMPP universe and our #standards!
https://xmpp.org/2026/01/the-xmpp-newsletter-december-2025/

Enjoy reading! ☕

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc #opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging #newsletter

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Happy Birthday to #InstantMessaging and #RealTimeCommunication with #XMPP!

Emerged from the #Jabber #community in 1999 and originally designed to provide an open and #decentralised alternative to #ICQ and #MSN, XMPP evolved to an independent alternative for todays #chat apps.
#rtc #whatsapp #signal

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Happy Jabber Day 🎂 🥳

On January 4, 1999, Jabber was first announced to the public¹.

Twenty-seven years later, Jabber—or XMPP, as it became known after standardization through the #IETF—remains the only truly vendor-independent, federated instant messaging platform.

In almost three decades, XMPP has never stopped evolving and remains our best tool for digital independence.

¹: http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/01/04/1621211

#DigitalIndependenceDay #Jabber #XMPP #DiDit #DigitalSovereignty #DiDay #JabberDay

Announcing Jabboratory, a partner collective of @joinjabber
Jabboratory aims to be for the people who already have an XMPP account and want to help improve XMPP and the Jabber network.

We use the same CoC as JoinJabber and all the same governance documents. All of them being by Vojkruco https://codeberg.org/Vojkruco/Cooperative_Development_Guidelines and we are hosted under the Vojkruco umbrella.

Some of the things we do are:
- specifications (called XCSPs in Jabboratory),
- developer help/documentation and implementation collaboration
- improve XMPP/Jabber network socially (safer spaces, blocklists, outreach, organizing events, pushing for a better non-tech culture, etc.)
or anything else that includes improving XMPP and Jabber network as a whole.

We aim for diversity of ideas, include people directly in all aspects of decision making (protocol, implementations, social, etc.) and build a space where people feel safe to talk, ask for help, bring up any kind of ideas and work with others to implement said ideas. By the community for the community with inclusive decision making to serve the people affected.

you are welcome to join our lounge room here -> https://invite.joinjabber.org/#lounge@chat.jabboratory.org%3Fjoin
It is strictly non-tech because we aim for inclusivity, but we do of course have other channels some of them being tech related🙂

We already have some implementations, servers, and XMPP collectives involved (including JoinJabber) and we are all building a better XMPP and Jabber network together 🙂

#xmpp #jabber #xml #SecureMessaging #decentralization #privacy #security #federated #jabboratory

@phylax @gajim

Note, that #Gajim 2.4.1 is now in #Debian 14 #forky (#testing).

But don't expect it in #backports. Too many new dependencies, sorry!

I love this new feature:

Animated previews for AVIF, GIF, PNG, and WebP.

#Jabber

@giacomo @argv_minus_one @paolo @whitequark @lynn @ariadne

I use Matrix, too, via an #XMPP bridge, #slidge by @nicoco. That way, I can use my usual #Jabber clients, which I like better than the Matrix ones. I.e. #Dino by @dino and #Gajim by @gajim.

Historic moment!

This weekend a "non-technical" friend and me installed #Debian 13 on their notebook computer, removing their previous OS. They is happy!

Historic moment, because I'm promoting #freeSoftware for three fckng decades to them. Now it's done.

Next step: Convince them of using the #Dino #Jabber client instead of unencrypted email with me. Maybe next decade?

Not everyone can or should self-host, but there is a lot of middle ground between self-hosting and putting everything on #AWS.

Federated protocols like #XMPP, #ActivityPub, and #SMTP give you choice.

#Fediverse #Jabber

Many exciting projects made it into the latest @NGIZero funding round.

My personal favorites are OMEMO v2 (#TWOMEMO 😜) for Converse.js (by @jcbrand) and GTK4 support for @phosh.

https://nlnet.nl/news/2025/20251016-selection-NGI0CommonsFund.html

#XMPP #Jabber #Converse #OMEMO

#Conversations_im is doing pretty extensive DNS caching. If you set the TTL of your DNS records relatively high (86400 seconds for example) Conversations can avoid some round trips during connect. Another round trip can be avoided if you prioritize the _xmpps-client SRV entry. This can significantly improve the performance in rough networking environments.

In good networks we can establish a full connection in under 500ms.

#XMPP #Jabber

@menel @Matty_r

I agree with "go for whatever makes you feel good", BUT would hope, that you feel best by helping with one of the existing clients instead of starting yet another one.

The problem with #Jabber clients is not lack of them, but that most are incomplete. E.g. #ConverseJS and #Gajim lack A/V calls, #Dino lacks adhoc commands and an official Windows build, etc.

Writing a good chat client is a HUGE endeavour. Better join a friendly team than work alone.

#XMPP

XSF Announcement

If you are interested in becoming an #XSF member your next opportunity is by 23rd November 2025.

We also have elections coming for the next phase for XSF #Board or XSF #Council. Applications are accepted by 2nd November 2025.

Read more here: https://xmpp.org/2025/10/the-xmpp-newsletter-september-2025/#xsf-announcements

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc
#opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging

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The XMPP Newsletter for September 2025 is out!

Read about the latest updates in the #XMPP universe and our #standards!

https://xmpp.org/2025/10/the-xmpp-newsletter-september-2025/

Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕

#jabber #chat #interoperability #rtc
#opensource #decentralization #federation #messaging #newsletter

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But Daniel, you might ask, won't the criminals just use Conversations then? Yes, they already do. And thank you for realizing why chat control is stupid.

#Conversations_im #XMPP #Jabber #ChatControl

EU Chat Control won't apply to the federated Jabber/XMPP ecosystem.
#Conversations_im is used by various militaries, police forces and intelligence agencies in Europe. They will make sure it won't get any client side scanning.

#XMPP #Jabber #ChatControl

Chatten geht auch ohne Werbung und auch ohne marktübliches Smartphone 😉 Ein Beispiel ist #XMPP / #Jabber - ein Internetstandard für Instant Messaging.