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Debacle »
@debacle@framapiaf.org

@kris @kolev @warmaster

I'm playing with by @prose once in a while and I"m optimistic, that it will become the best free software team chat.

But they don't have an official release, yet, and the pre-releases still don't have all the features, such as message replies and A/V calls. Also, there are compatibility issues with other clients, i.e. file transfer.

Anyway, it's already usable and worth a try!

Btw. their technical foundation (Rust, Tauri, Vue.js) is pretty cool!

    Debacle »
    @debacle@framapiaf.org

    Reminder to myself, just ignore me.

    in the context of typically means three things, abbreviated :



    Different systems have different properties regarding the three aspects of security.
    E.g. for confidentiality modern with might be desired.
    For availability, federated systems can have an advantage over centralized ones.

      Debacle »
      @debacle@framapiaf.org

      @derekmorr

      You seem to be citizen, so I don't blame you for advertising US services, such as Amazon, Google, or Signal. But please understand, that I have a different PoV as citizen of the .

      E.g. it is pretty difficult to get multiple phone numbers over here, let alone anonymous phone numbers. Which makes it hard to have multiple or anonymous Signal accounts. OTOH, this is very easy with — I'm not even sure, how many accounts I have 🙂

      @nicoco @Linux

        Debacle »
        @debacle@framapiaf.org

        @Linux

        You even mention Delta Chat in your list. For me, it would be "secure" enough — here in the sense of keeping my conversations confidential. But of course, with , has the advantage of . can be less convenient, though.

        Mentioning Delta, but not is … strange in that respect.

        Btw. anything that is not free and federated is in danger of changing laws. See what is happening in right now and how it might affect Threema.

        @derekmorr @nicoco

          Debacle »
          @debacle@framapiaf.org

          @derekmorr @nicoco @Linux

          Signal runs and depends on the Amazon cloud and Google services, no matter how you think about DJTs buddies Jeff B. and Sundar P.

          For me, "security" can mean many things, but first of all social security.

          is not "leaking all your metadata", esp. not if you self-host your server or use a trustworthy one.

          Personally, I would not even give a chat service my phone number (metadata!), esp. not a US one, but YMMV.

            Debacle »
            @debacle@framapiaf.org

            @derekmorr @Linux

            Btw. the OP especially mentioned . Federated services, such as , are relatively well protected against this specific danger. While it is easy to control one server, it is relatively hard to takeover all, even for state level actors.

            Reminder to server administrators: Please use port 443 for direct TLS c2s, not e.g. 5223. It is good for both and service availability!

            (But stay with 5222 for STARTTLS c2s. Better for old clients.)

              Debacle »
              @debacle@framapiaf.org

              @derekmorr @Linux

              The original post is not about "" (whatever that means without context) or , but about alternatives to US services.

              When it comes to , Signal is not an option. It runs and depends on the Amazon cloud. DJT can ask Jeff B. to shutdown Signal, when he feels like it.

              / with is just fine. In comparison to Signal, it is much easier to protect by maintaining multiple, anonymous accounts for different activities.

                Debacle »
                @debacle@framapiaf.org

                @Linux

                Fortunately, we have a standard for federated chat: , also known as . It exists since 1999 and works so well, that it is even used — under the hood and not in a federated way — by Whatsapp, Google FCM, Zoom and many more.

                  Debacle »
                  @debacle@framapiaf.org

                  @ATROXUS

                  Schade, daß nicht -kompatibel ist.
                  , der -Client für ist leider schon lange im Zustand der .
                  So vielversprechend, so abandoned 😞

                    Deus Figendi.jwd »
                    @deusfigendi@troet.cafe

                    @debacle @cryptgoat

                    > Bei / ist das Hauptproblem im Moment, daß es keinen guten Windows client gibt.

                    Was ist mit Miranda NG?
                    Als ich Windows benutzte mochte ich Miranda IM immer sehr gerne und laut Wikipedia kann es:
                    - Windows
                    - MUC
                    - OMEMO

                    Außerdem hab ich gerade gelesen dass Jitsi Desktop (Java-Anwendung) ein XMPP-Client sei, ich glaube den probiere ich mal aus.

                      Debacle »
                      @debacle@framapiaf.org

                      @cryptgoat

                      Bei / ist das Hauptproblem im Moment, daß es keinen guten Windows client gibt. ist auf Windows veraltet und generell nicht sehr "featureful", kann keine A/V calls 😞

                      Signal ist für mich wiederum nix, weil's so richtig nur auf Android und iOS läuft, was ich nicht habe(n will). Naja, und Amazon cloud und Telefonnummer….

                      Alles nicht so prall.

                        dorotaC »
                        @dcz@fosstodon.org

                        Hey fans.
                        I want to write a which passes presence events around.

                        When I log in, I get presence events for my contacts.

                        Except when the contacts are offline.

                        How am I supposed to distinguish between a contact being unavailable and the presence being slow to come? Must I have a timeout?

                        I tried sending probes, but my version of doesn't respond for offline contacts :/

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                          Hippo 🍉 »
                          @badrihippo@fosstodon.org

                          Is introducing the last straw for you?

                          noyb.eu/en/whatsapp-getting-ad

                          Consider using instead, which is:

                          🗳️ community-driven, so you can push for features you like, and, more importantly, vote against changes you dislike!
                          🆓 freedom-respecting, so you can fork the code to make things work the way you want
                          :xmpp: standards-based, using the protocol
                          🌐 part of the federated network, so you can switch apps and instances without having to drag everyone else along with you!

                          A two-part slogan on a pink-purple background.

The first part shows a sharp-toothed fish snapping at a person and says: Give a person a centralised messaging app and it'll feed on them for a day.

The second part has the text wrapped around in the shape of a fish, and says: Teach a person an open protocol and they'll control their feeds for life!

At the bottom is a black band with the name Prav (prav.app) and saying: Take back control of your communication.

                          Alt...A two-part slogan on a pink-purple background. The first part shows a sharp-toothed fish snapping at a person and says: Give a person a centralised messaging app and it'll feed on them for a day. The second part has the text wrapped around in the shape of a fish, and says: Teach a person an open protocol and they'll control their feeds for life! At the bottom is a black band with the name Prav (prav.app) and saying: Take back control of your communication.

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                            NoSmartphone »
                            @NoSmartphone@devlug.de

                            Werbung auf ?

                            Chatten geht auch ohne Werbung und auch ohne marktübliches Smartphone 😉 Ein Beispiel ist / - ein Internetstandard für Instant Messaging.

                              Debacle »
                              @debacle@framapiaf.org

                              @hexaheximal @QuadRadical

                              channels (s) work well for me. What do you miss compared to Matrix? I only use Matrix via an XMPP bridge, therefore I might miss the best parts 🙂

                              Btw.: If I'm not mistaken, allows entering public channels semi-anonymously (i.e. only server and group admins see your real id, but other members don't), while Matrix does not have that option?

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                                Debacle »
                                @debacle@framapiaf.org

                                There will be a / session at in . Stay tuned for the .

                                  qwazix »
                                  @qwazix@bananachips.club

                                  Anybody knows what I should do to enable push notifications on ? My ejabberd shows as compliant with XEP-0357: Push Notifications on compliance.conversations.im/ but the messages don't reach the phone when the app is closed

                                  Please :boost_ok: for reach

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                                    XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation »
                                    @xmpp@fosstodon.org

                                    The Newsletter for May 2025 is out!

                                    Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and updates on our !

                                    xmpp.org/2025/06/the-xmpp-news

                                    Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕ :xmpp:


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                                      JoinJabber »
                                      @joinjabber@indieweb.social

                                      @daniel

                                      You seem to imply that we have to choose between:

                                      - a safer space that has a strong CoC, a mediation process, wants to encourage diversity/inclusivity/plurality of opinions, wants to actively seek and include 2slgbtqia+ people in its decision making.

                                      - an Organization that have/want none of these.

                                      I would much rather have a community that knows a bit less of XMPP but will get better over time in a safe space.

                                        JoinJabber »
                                        @joinjabber@indieweb.social

                                        @markus

                                        There is no such thing as "neutral" or for "everyone" or "apolitical".

                                        As communities and organizations we always choose who we want to include. For example:

                                        - Include capitalist companies, to the exclusion of the community
                                        - Some people have all the power, while people doing the work have none.
                                        - male/tech-bro (often queerphobic) dominated culture to the exclusion of everybody else.

                                        In JoinJabber we want to say openly who we include, not hide it 🙂

                                          JoinJabber »
                                          @joinjabber@indieweb.social

                                          We want to instead enable 2SLGBTQIA+ people to be directly involved by:
                                          - create stuff that they need without needing approval from people that do not have their experience (most often cishet people)
                                          - Block and/or reform proposals/features/documentation or anything else that is excluding them or makes it harder for them to exist
                                          - advocate for things that benefit them by participating in decision making.

                                          room is -> 2slgbtqia+@joinjabber.org?join

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                                            JoinJabber »
                                            @joinjabber@indieweb.social

                                            Happy Pride Month!! 🏳️‍⚧️️🏳️‍🌈️💜️

                                            Its no secret that historically XMPP has done/is doing a bad job as an ecosystem and protocol to develop features that aid 2SLGBTQIA+ people to be their true selves or protect them from abuse.

                                            With Pride Month happening we are taking the next step after creating our own CoC and advocating for CoCs to be adopted. Historically 2SLGBTQIA+ people have been "advisors" or just an opinion to listen to.

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                                              Stefan »
                                              @stefan@devlug.de

                                              Ich werde mir Zuhause und im Auto ein Funkgerät einrichten. Als Kinder hatten wir ein CB-Funkgerät und es hat ziemlich Spaß gemacht.

                                              Das werde ich jetzt mit den Kinder mal "wiederbeleben". Gerade auch weil das Funken auch in der lernt.

                                              Ich glaube ich kauf mir dazu auch mal ein Buch. Hoffentlich funken wir nicht allein :)

                                              Vielleicht hatten auch andere früher ein CB-Funkgerät.

                                              Das steht für Citizens band radio (CB radio) und ist eine "Jedermannfunkanwendung". Man braucht keine Lizenz / Gebühren zu zahlen.

                                              Man nennt es auch 11-Meter-Band. In liegt der Frequenzbereich von 26,565 MHz bis 27,405 MHz. Das sind 80 Kanäle FM und 40 Kanäle AM.

                                              FM steht für Frequenzmodulation.
                                              AM steht für Amplitudenmodulation.

                                              Ich habe für den Austausch mal ein Jabber-Raum erstellt. Vielleicht will jemand mal vorbei kommen.

                                              xmpp:citizens-band-radio@conference.anoxinon.me?join


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                                                Stefan »
                                                @stefan@devlug.de

                                                Was wird uns im Bereich "Chat" (XMPP) in Debian 13 "Trixie" erwarten? 🥳

                                                Im Blog-Beitrag vom Debian XMPP Team bekommt ihr dazu einige Informationen.

                                                Was ist XMPP? 🤔

                                                XMPP ist ein Internetstandard für Instant Messaging - ein Protokoll zum chatten und vieles mehr! ☝️

                                                Hier 👇 geht es zum Beitrag:

                                                https://xmpp-team.pages.debian.net/blog/2025/05/xmpp-debian-13-trixie-news.html

                                                Meine persönlichen Highlights sind:

                                                💫 Dino, upgraded from 0.4.2 to 0.5.0
                                                💫 Gajim, upgraded from 1.7.3 to 2.1.1
                                                💫 Profanity, upgraded from 0.13.1 to 0.15.0
                                                💫 Prosŏdy, from 0.12.3 to 13.0.1

                                                Vielen Dank an das Debian XMPP Team und die XMPP Projekte! 🙏 🙏 🙏

                                                Viel Spaß beim chatten.


                                                  JoinJabber »
                                                  @joinjabber@indieweb.social

                                                  You do not have to use the JoinJabber CoC, there are other CoCs listed there and both JoinJabber and all the CoCs there list other CoCs with their inspiration. So you can use whichever one you want or adapt them.

                                                  That said *please*:
                                                  - do not use the XSF CoC or the GNU Kind communication guidelines, it does not have adequate protections or is actively harmful in the case of GNU guidelines.
                                                  - just a "be nice" or a short list of "don't spam" or "don't be an asshole" is not a CoC.

                                                    JoinJabber »
                                                    @joinjabber@indieweb.social

                                                    Moderators/owners of XMPP rooms and communities, lets all work together to built healthier and safer communities in XMPP.

                                                    XMPP has been suffering for a while from not being inclusive and not having sustainable moderation.

                                                    If we want to promote or encourage people and communities to use XMPP we need to first do the work in our communities to do better.

                                                    Please see the JoinJabber criteria for listing rooms and try to follow them as much as you can.
                                                    joinjabber.org/docs/faqs/rooms

                                                      XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation »
                                                      @xmpp@fosstodon.org

                                                      Events

                                                      XMPP : Devs from , & featuring , @dino, @ejabberd @kaidan , , @Monal, and @prose
                                                      Sponsors: , Ammonit Measurement GmbH & @wikimediaDE

                                                      Developers at work at the XMPP Berlin Sprint

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                                                        Stefan »
                                                        @stefan@devlug.de

                                                        Ich habe gerade verrückte Idee,...

                                                        Pen-&-Paper über CB-Funk 🙂

                                                        Eigentlich braucht man nur Würfel, die man dann "teilt". Das vielleicht dann einfach per Jabber mit einem P&P Würfel Bot - so ein Ding ist ja schnell geschrieben.


                                                          XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation »
                                                          @xmpp@fosstodon.org

                                                          Community

                                                          The next XMPP in starts tomorrow! 23rd - 25th May 2025 - it is open to all interested.

                                                          More details: wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2025

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                                                            XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation »
                                                            @xmpp@fosstodon.org

                                                            Community

                                                            XMPP in on 23rd - 25th May 2025! It is open to all interested.

                                                            More details: wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2025

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                                                              XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation »
                                                              @xmpp@fosstodon.org

                                                              The Newsletter for April 2025 is out!

                                                              Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our !

                                                              xmpp.org/2025/05/the-xmpp-news

                                                              Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕ :xmpp:


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                                                                Debacle »
                                                                @debacle@framapiaf.org

                                                                Thoughts on Matrix, XMPP, and reliability [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                @tirifto

                                                                Which client is it? Maybe it does not speak MUC-MAM (message archive management for group chats)? What are the MAM settings of the server? E.g. by @prosodyim defaults to one week for expiry, IIRC.

                                                                When I started using (≈ 2014), reliability was not very good, indeed. Nowadays it is 100 % for me.

                                                                Compared to Matrix, I'm only missing "XEP-0503: Server-side spaces" and animated stickers in 🙂

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                                                                  Daniel Gultsch »
                                                                  @daniel@gultsch.social

                                                                  A recent security audit of ¹ found that wildcard certificate handling didn’t fully comply with the spec.

                                                                  Conversations was accepting *.a.example for c.b.a.example, even though wildcards are only meant to match a single label.

                                                                  This issue has been fixed in version 2.18.0, now live on Google Play.

                                                                  ¹: conversations.im/2025_audit_co

                                                                    mathieui boosted

                                                                    XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation »
                                                                    @xmpp@fosstodon.org

                                                                    Community

                                                                    XMPP in on 23rd - 25th May 2025! It is open to all interested.

                                                                    More details: wiki.xmpp.org/web/Sprints/2025

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                                                                      XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation »
                                                                      @xmpp@fosstodon.org

                                                                      The Newsletter for March 2025 is out!

                                                                      Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our !

                                                                      xmpp.org/2025/04/the-xmpp-news

                                                                      Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕ :xmpp:


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                                                                        XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation »
                                                                        @xmpp@fosstodon.org

                                                                        The Newsletter for February 2025 is out!

                                                                        Read about the latest XMPP universe updates and the latest updates on our !

                                                                        xmpp.org/2025/03/the-xmpp-news

                                                                        Enjoy reading! 📰 ☕ :xmpp:


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                                                                          XSF: XMPP Standards Foundation »
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                                                                          Announcement

                                                                          Today the Standards Foundation publishes an Open Letter to urge to adopt XMPP for messaging .

                                                                          It’s time for real interoperability. Let’s make it happen.

                                                                          xmpp.org/announcements/open-le


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                                                                            Debacle »
                                                                            @debacle@framapiaf.org

                                                                            @evacide

                                                                            Reminder to people who work in the , or any other institution with levels:
                                                                            Please use systems, that reflect them, for information.

                                                                            E.g. there is "XEP-0258: Labels in " xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0258.h

                                                                            @daniel

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